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The countries Spain and Luxembourg are currently ruled by kings from the House of Bourbon, so I thought I'd try to trace back their (patrilineal) ancestry as far as possible. Well, the Bourbons are descended from the Capetian dynasty, which in turn is descended from a noble family known as the Robertians. The Robertians came to rule France in the ninth century, but before that they were counts of Worms, going back to their namesake Robert of Hesbaye. His ancestors were dukes of Neustria and counts of Haspengau (an older name for Hasbaye), going back to Charibert of Haspengau.

But here I'm hitting somewhat of a dead end. The site that Wikipedia relies upon for all this information doesn't list any ancestors of Charibert. But this site claims that his father was Tassilon I, one of the first rulers of Bavaria. Can anyone verify this claim? (Note that this would be impossible if we go by what Wikipedia says about when Charibert lived, but Wikipedia's own source contradicts that information.)

I'm somewhat skeptical, because Bavaria (in modern-day Germany) is about 400 miles from Hespengau (in modern-day Belgium). But I suppose it's possible that one of Tassilon's sons went on a long journey west for some reason and established a new estate there. (This would be a case of a Frankish nobleman going to another Frankish territory.). In any case, if it is true then that would mean that the Robertians are ultimately descended from the Agilolfings, a noble family that traces its origins all the way back to Hermeric, a Germanic ruler who was an enemy of the Romans.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You in Advance.

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genealogy is off topic, asking for references is off topic –  Tyler Durden Jun 5 at 19:47
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@TylerDurden The genealogy of famous historical figures is off-topic? I think that statement in the SE description is more about questions related to personal genealogy and the like, not about questions about ancestry that are relevant to the subject of history. –  Keshav Srinivasan Jun 5 at 20:06
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@TylerDurden And this isn't a reference-request question, where someone's asking for a bunch of reference on topic. This is a question trying to find out a particular historical fact. Now of course a good answer would be backed up with references, but I don't think this a reference request. –  Keshav Srinivasan Jun 5 at 20:08
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@TylerDurden Like I said, I think the guideline is referring to geneology the field of inquiry - for instance questions people might have about how to find out about their great-grandfather. I don't think it's talking about the historical questions concerning the origins of famous dynasties. –  Keshav Srinivasan Jun 6 at 0:55
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@TylerDurden I edited my question, because I'm not ultimately interested in who Charibert's father is as such. Rather, I'm trying to trace back the origins of the Robertians as far as possible. And as I said, this isn't a reference request question. I'm trying to find out the answer to a historical question, and I've found one potential (partial) answer to it, but I don't know whether it's right or not. A reference request question would more along the lines of "What books should I read about topic X?" –  Keshav Srinivasan Jun 6 at 16:25

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