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When you look at the biggest cities in the world, they all tend to be built on a major body of water, either a coast, a large lake, or a major river. This made sense in ancient times, as abundant water fills two essential needs for civilization, (abundant water for drinking and abundant water for agriculture,) but even in modern times, when one would think that irrigation and pipelines would mitigate the necessity for local access to abundant water, we still see major cities showing up on the waterfront.

I can only think of one example, modern or historical, of a major city without local access to abundant water, and that's Jerusalem. (And it took some pretty impressive feats of ancient engineering to get water to it.) But it seems strange to think that that would be the only one. Are there any other examples of major cities, either historical or modern, without local access to abundant water? How common was it?

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@Luke Mexico City was an outgrowth of Teotihuacan, which was abundant with water at the time of its inception. – New Alexandria Oct 31 '12 at 18:40
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True, but the lake no longer remains. – American Luke Oct 31 '12 at 22:08
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I do not understand why you mix "cities build [...] a coast" and then reference the need of water for human and agricultural usage in your question. Sea water is unsuitable for human or agricultural usage. Being close to a sea coast brings other advantages, though (possibility of fishing, of sea trade, and usually a milder climate) – SJuan76 May 25 '15 at 12:59
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@SJuan76: As I wrote in a comment below, "even if you can't drink seawater, living on the coast generally brings abundant rainfall and a high water table, meaning you can get all the water your civilization needs from wells." – Mason Wheeler May 25 '15 at 13:02
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Petra, Jordan, relied on rainfall cisterning for its water. – Pieter Geerkens May 25 '15 at 23:20

To some extent, the answer depends on your definitions of "abundant" and "major city." Generally, the supply of water needs merely be adequate to support a population, not "abundant," so I would argue that the situation you describe is rather common, with perhaps hundreds of important cities present and past thriving despite their distance from a major river or freshwater lake. The presence of "abundant" water does contribute to a city's growth, however, because historically, water enables trade, and trade in aggregate brings prosperity, and prosperous cities will grow.


Human settlements number perhaps in the millions, but not every camp becomes a village, not every village a town, and not every town a great metropolis. Cities grow because cities prosper, and while access to water was historically important, it was not for the reasons you propose.

Do not conflate cities and their civilizations. Civilizations depend on agriculture, and agriculture depends on water, but almost by definition little agriculture takes place in cities. But even in the case of agriculture, many pre-industrial civilizations were able to divert springs, store floodwaters and runoff in reservoirs, and supply agriculture through canals.

To be sure, water is necessary. Mesopotamian civilizations shriveled when the Tigris or Euphrates shifted course, and parched Dodoma is Tanzania's capital largely on paper partly for its unstable water supply. But "abundant" water is not sufficient for a major city to arise, either. None of the fifteen largest metropolitan areas in the U.S. is situated on any of its fifteen largest rivers by discharge (in fairness, #16 Minneapolis-St. Paul is on the Mississippi). The Nile Valley has not been the richest part of Africa for some time, and the great cities of Brazil are not situated on the banks of the Amazon.

Even in ancient times, urban drinking water needs could be met by transportation (i.e. canals and aqueducts), collection/storage (i.e. reservoirs, cisterns), and groundwater (wells and springs). Jerusalem, which you say lacked an "abundant water supply," used an extensive system of cisterns and reservoirs supplemented by aqueducts to support its population. The same goes for Athens, Byblos, Carthage, Constantinople, and on down the line to Pompeii, Syracuse, and Tyre— given the dry climate and unlacustrine geography of the Mediterranean and Levant, quite a few of its settlements would have relied in groundwater and cisterns, with increasingly longer and more sophisticated aqueducts built, especially starting in the Roman era.

For a more modern example, Dallas, Texas is situated on the Trinity River, but that is a minor waterway that is not navigable. It was founded there for its lack of water— that is to say, a trading post was established at one of the river's few natural fords to service the many wagon trains crossing there. From the trading post grew a metropolitan area of over 6 million residents.

What this illustrates is that a more important driver of growth is trade, and trade is what access to a major river or lake (or the sea or ocean) facilitates. Prior to the invention of the steam engine, transporting goods over land was slow, subject to loss by banditry, and limited by the speed of pack animals. Water was the only feasible medium for shipping cargo in large quantities or over long distances, whether by barge or boat. Communications, too, would have been faster by water, particularly in a mountainous country like Greece, and the presence of a port implies contact with outsiders, contributing to the sharing of ideas. Countries and empires undertook huge canal projects to facilitate water transportation; thousands of miles of them in the United States alone.

Of course, trade is not the sole force behind a city's growth, either. Other population centers became established for political reasons, such as Madrid, or for military reasons, such as Moscow. But in such cases, the availability of water is again secondary. Madrid has a tenuous water supply for a city its size, but had an ideal location for Philip II to establish his court.

The invention of the steam engine, telegraph, and railroad have of course torn all the above considerations apart. Sending a package from New York to San Francisco by clipper ship would have taken three months, half the time to ship it by stagecoach over land. But the transcontinental railroad made it possible to ship it in a week. Such things would have rendered Pheidippides and Andrew Jackson largely invisible to history, but they also made possible cities that would scarcely have thrived otherwise: Los Angeles, watered from hundreds of miles away, is a trade hub because it connects the American railroad network— improbably, over mountains and across deserts— to its busiest port— an artificial harbor dug by steam shovel— and busiest O/D international airport.

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Sure, the largest cities in the US aren't on the largest rivers, but most of them are either coastal or on the Great Lakes. And even if you can't drink seawater, living on the coast generally brings abundant rainfall and a high water table, meaning you can get all the water your civilization needs from wells. Good points about trade being a significant motivating factor, though. – Mason Wheeler Oct 31 '12 at 14:50
    
I remember reading in Stephen Ambrose's Undaunted Courage: Meriwether Lewis, Thomas Jefferson, and the Opening of the American West (1997) also an argument to the effect that in colonial times the continental rivers had similar importance (to the military, hunters, traders, etc.) as the highway system has gained in modern times. – Drux Nov 1 '12 at 22:46
    
Factoid supporting this answer: Munich and Freising sit both along the Isar, Munich thrived after some duke burned down the bridge in Freising and built one in Munich. – mart May 25 '15 at 20:10

City where I live, Bangalore (in southern India) would be an example. It has a population of about 8.5 million (which is slightly more than that of New York city), so it definitely can be considered a major city. It is not built on the shores of any significant water body. It has been around since at least 1537, if not earlier.

I am guessing that there would be many more such examples.

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Tehran immediately comes to mind. – canadiancreed Oct 31 '12 at 12:11

Moscow was build on a small river. It is in the 20th Cent. when through a channel Volga waters poured into Moskva river and it became... hmmm... a medium river.

Rome was built on Tiber - even smaller river.

Maya cities were built on marshes.

Really, old capital cities, especially in Europe, were rather small towns in nowadays terms and even a small river was enough at start. And later they simply transported the fresh water, if needed. Often by water, as in old Moscow or Venice.

A city needed rather a strong agricultural area around - the food was more serious problem.

And in the East they used some alternative methods to get the water. Karez water systems, or simply covering all valleys and mini-valleys bottoms by flat stones. The water condenses on the stones at night, gets below, cannot be evaporated during the day due to the covering and pours safely along the valley.

In the end of 18th century in Kafa there lived more than 150000 people using this atmospheric water by hand made brooks. After Russia got Crimea, the stones were taken for buildings and brooks disappeared. And the same town Feodosia in the end of 20 century had only 75000 inhabitants taking the water from the Dnepr by a huge channel.

So, using green technologies, you needn't a river. And without them, any river is not enough.

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You have to remember that these major cities weren't major cities when they were first built. Jerusalem was a small town for most of its existence, and had sufficient water for its population.

Consider a couple of modern-day examples without much (if any) local fresh water source. Los Angeles started as a sleepy farming community, with enough water from the seasonal rains & fogs, and streams like the Los Angeles River to support its small population. As it grew, construction projects brought in water from hundreds of miles away. Similarly with Las Vegas: it has only enough natural water to support a few ranches. The current city depends on the existence of Hoover Dam & Lake Mead to supply water from the Colorado River.

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Riyadh, Saudi Arabia Is the capital and it is sitting on a totally dry land

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Not totally. Riyadh was founded on an oasis. – Semaphore Sep 18 '15 at 20:35

Tehran is another example, Yaz and Mashhad, Kerman, and many other examples in Iran

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Tehran was originally supplied with ample water by its springs and from the Alborz mountains. – Semaphore Oct 22 '15 at 20:14

Milan, Italy, doesn't have a major waterway too. The first important river, the Ticino, is about 33,5 km and to reach it and other major bodies of water (Lake maggiore, lake of Como, Ticino River and then Po river) in the centuries has been made a lot of canals (sistema dei Navigli: naviglio grande, naviglio pavese, naviglio Martesana etc etc). But in fact Milan has no river, and this also because Milan literally "floats" on the water: the aquifer in some places is less than 20 mt below the soil level and water is usually copious all year long.

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Atlanta, Georgia (population of the metropolitan area approximately 5.5 million) doesn't have a major waterway. Its major impetus, in the mid-1800s, was as a railroad terminus (originally of the Western and Atlantic railway, from which the city derived its name).

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