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I know this is pretty sensitive question, I would like to get an objective answer. It is widely known that jewish people were persecuted by Hitler's regime, and many of them died in concentration camps. But I never feel like the numbers are exact, from time to time I see people's documentation about holocaust, the numbers are changing in wide range.

My problem is:
- first of all there are neo-nazis, who claim that the holocaust never happened. Ok, that seems totally false.
- second of all there are soviet and even some american claims about the numbers which are also look falsified. I wouldn't wonder since there was a war which was won, and the winner always try to support their views. Especially the soviet datas are not really reliable.

I see some attempts to get clear picture, for example David Cole's interviews in Auschwitz. He made a low cost documentary movie of this subject in 1992. He seems to me a little bit more reliable person than some soviet officiers or neo-nazi sources. He claims that - and it is pretty believable to me - germans mostly forced jews to work and lot more of jews died in poor condition than gas chambers. But since I am not historian I can't really judge it.

So the point of the question is: Is there any normal objective source on this subject?

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If you decide to visit Auschwitz one day, feel free to contact me for any help. I live only 60 kilometers from there. – Darek WÄ™drychowski Mar 7 at 12:00
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Scholars who study Nazism, World War II, and the Holocaust are diverse and international. There is no central authority to which they report and no headquarters to enforce a single view. The fact that they all agree on the broad outlines of what happened (while still arguing about factual details and historical explanations) shows that the evidence is unequivocal. – Eugene Seidel Mar 7 at 14:20
@DarekWÄ™drychowski Thank you, it is a kind gesture, I can't promise, but I am willing to investigate these places. I am 32 years old, and I have no close connection to holocaust. My family wasn't involved to any kind of state related actions, and I have no jewish relatives as well. I see that some people (some jews and neo nazis) get hysterical if the holocaust gets to topic. I am simply a person for whom this is history. I was never involved, just by historical records, and I see that instead of getting exact answers I often get just emotional based critics. I want to understand why. – CsBalazsHungary Mar 7 at 15:38

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Does this page answer your question?

UPDT: You might also want to gave a good look at this book. Specifically, search for "David Cole" in it.

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It looks like a valuable source. I will look after other sources as well, thank you! – CsBalazsHungary Mar 7 at 10:20
In particular this section, which opens: "The most paradoxical of the deniers is David Cole..." – T.E.D. Mar 7 at 15:36
Makes sense, even if I find Cole as "trying to think" person. What he says make sense since I try to see through the propaganda. Whatever nazis did, that should be condemned. But I don't think they were complete idiots. I am sure they forced as many jews to work as they could, and I know that they tried to get rid out of those who couldn't. But I think it makes no sense to spend extreme amount of energy of keeping people in camps for months just to kill them. I have the opinion that they tried to force them work, and who weren't able to, they got killed. – CsBalazsHungary Mar 7 at 15:43
Some addition: I disagree with Cole that the people had decent life in camps with swimming pools, theatre, etc... that seems nonsense for me as well. In a serious war this kind of luxury also seems idiotic. I think this should be reviewed by my generation or the next one. For us this is more history than personal events. – CsBalazsHungary Mar 7 at 15:46
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I cannot find any studies on the Holocaust published by a historian named David Cole. The only "David Cole" I can find when searching on his name and "Holocaust" is a revisionist who later recanted his claims. www.nizkor.org has more information. @Mods: Please watch these comments carefully, there is a danger of veering away from answering a specific question and moving towards opinionating. – Eugene Seidel Mar 7 at 20:05
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In "The War Against the Jews," Lucy Dawidowitz provides estimates of Jewish casualty rates by country. The book has been challenged by others such as Raul Hilberg, but is still a useful reference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_Against_the_Jews

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