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The original source for the stories you heard is apparently the book "Scorpion Down" by Ed Offley. The book's statements are questionable to say the least and this book review makes a good point. I checked what the Russian sources say about K-129. This 2008 interview with Viktor A. Dygalo, the commander of the division that K-129 belonged to, covers this ...


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If you look at ace sinking by year you'll find that aces could only develop their sink counts during "happy times," when a technical and doctrinal superiority favoured mass sinkings. These times often involved unimpeded surface running, surface attacks on individual ships, an absence of convoy systems and loosely protected convoys. While it may be ...


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The Venturer also sank U771 which was not submerged while being hit by torpedoes. This is wikipedia info, but apparently the British also used submarines for ASW. They seem to have lured in places where retreating/coming out of port, and would not be detected by passing submerged submarines. Alas, let us consider which other wars might have seen submarine ...


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Actually, no... the first submarines used in warfare appeared in the Revolutionary War, and two more were deployed (unsuccessfully) by the US in the War of 1812. 1) No, because they weren't very practical or successful until John Phillip Holland and Electric Boat perfected the battle submarine at the turn of the century. 2) The first modern military ...


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In addition to the answer above; Commander Michel Thomas Poirier, USN wrote a paper/study in October 1999 called Results of the German and American Submarine Campaigns of World War 2. In it he details many factors of both campaigns, it's well worth a read in it's entirety if you are interested in the subject. However, most relevantly to this topic is ...


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Each of these submarines were sunk in separate incidents, so I wanted to make sure that anyone seeing this understood that these two were not directly involved with one another in any form of conflict. The Soviet sub K-129 was sunk a few weeks prior to the loss of the USS Scorpion, and some theories suggest that the Scorpion was sunk in retaliation for the ...


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Not mentioned so far is the Allies progressively better use of radar. Diesel submarines spent a lot of time on the surface, at least until the Germans developed snorkels. If they could be seen on radar, they were easy pickings. They could also be located by radio triangulation, so toward they end of the war they had to maintain radio silence. In such ...


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According to a 1999 article by Mark A. Bradley in Proceedings, the U.S. Naval Institute's professional journal ("Why They Called the Scorpion "Scrapiron," July 1998), on May 20, 1968, the Scorpion was ordered to intercept a Soviet flotilla near the Azores that included one Echo-II-class nuclear-propelled submarine, a submarine rescue vessel, two ...


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I agree that the above was the only battle between two submerged submarines. More to the point, I'd be surprised if there was ever a battle between two SURFACED submarines. BY DEFINITION, submarines do not like to fight on the surface. They are small ships with no guns (to speak of), and are therefore not a match for a warship when surfaced. Their primary ...


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There is a famous book/movie, "Run Silent, Run Deep", which involves a submarine duel based loosely on real events. Submarines can and will hunt and kill each other. In WWII torpedoes did not have active seekers, but relied on contact fusing, which means you would have to set the depth of the torpedo and make a direct hit. This would be very difficult to do ...


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The type XXI U-boat manufactured during 1944, but not ready until too late was qualitatively far superior to any submarines anywhere. Even older type VII and Type IX U-boats adopted advanced technologies with Schnorkel, Acoustic torpedoes, NAXOS, TUNIS and SAMOS radar warning receivers. By mid 1944 two dozen U-boats had FMU-200 Hohenweil radar sets. It ...


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On 9 January 1942, the Japanese submarine I-73 (or I-173) was sunk by the US submarine USS Gudgeon (SS-211). The action meant that the USS Gudgeon was the first US Navy warship to sink an enemy warship in WWII. References: http://www.hazegray.org/danfs/submar/ss211.txt http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/japaneseshiploss.htm



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