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comment Why did Jews not immigrate to the Muslim world?
We really ought to move this to the chat... possible?
Jan
10
comment Why did Jews not immigrate to the Muslim world?
@Noldorin I'm coming back wayy late here (holidays etc). I appreciate what modern historiography has to say about the role of the historian in creating history, but it is my opinion that not all opinions are necessarily equally valid, and some are (demonstratively) wrong. And it is my opinion that the reductive historical argument that the Ottomans were barbarians/scoundrels/evil is most certainly not a valid one. I've never seen an academic book or article make that argument, and this is coming from someone who has published on (and accepts) the Armenian Genocide.
Jan
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revised Did Napoleon ever visit Modern Israel?
Removed Damascus from places visited.
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Dec
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comment Why did Jews not immigrate to the Muslim world?
@Noldorin - Aside from the Janissary corps, I'm having trouble of thinking of instances of forced conversion in Ottoman times. In any case, speaking of the Ottomans as 'barbarians' is a simplistic way of looking at Ottoman history, just as it would be if one claimed that all was perfect under their rule. What isn't really disputable is that Jews and Christians were an integral part of the Ottoman Empire from the beginning up to 1914. The period immediately before WWI was a fascinating for its Ottomanist thought, which is worth reading about. PS Who says I'm not a professional historian ;)
Dec
27
comment Why did Jews not immigrate to the Muslim world?
@Noldorin - not to get all nostalgic about the OE, but I'm going to have to disagree with you again. Let's remember that the 'secular' republic under Atatürk regularly suppressed non-Turks and non-Sunnis: his army was behind further massacres and deportations of Armenians and Nestorians. It was similarly hostile to Muslims who were from ethnic or religious minorities (such as Alevis). In the 40s, the remaining Armenians, Greeks and Jews had virtually all their money and properties seized by the state. Non-Muslims in Turkey today have less opportunity than they did under the Ottomans.
Dec
27
comment Why did Jews not immigrate to the Muslim world?
@Noldrin - the comment was that Jews did not speak Arabic, and that is not exactly true. Note that Hebrew was still used by some Jews in the Middle East for non-religious purposes prior to the creation of modern Hebrew, but Judeo-Arabic was the main medium.
Dec
27
comment Why did Jews not immigrate to the Muslim world?
@Noldorin - not really rubbish, though the Armenian Genocide is a glaring counter-example (but it was done by what was basically Turkish nationalists not a pro-Ottoman government). For example: in the 19th century, there was an effort to create a non-denominational Ottoman identity in which all religions would be equal; non-Muslims could be found at all but the highest levels of the bureaucracy; they had rights to their own parallel administration, including courts and taxation; the Ottoman government put out newspapers in their languages; they lived better than Muslims under European rule!
Dec
26
comment Why did Jews not immigrate to the Muslim world?
@Andrei - Jews in the Middle East spoke Arabic more than they spoke Hebrew.
Dec
26
comment Why did Jews not immigrate to the Muslim world?
@Noldorin - not really correct. Jews and Christian denominations lived as recognised communities with considerable rights in the Ottoman Empire.
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Dec
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comment Why were there civil wars in Croatia and Bosnia, but not in Slovenia or Macedonia?
Just a small point of correction. There has been fighting in post-Yugoslavia Macedonia. The country has a sizable Albanian minority and some fairly serious (albeit short-lived) clashes have occurred between them and the government.
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revised Who was responsible for the partition of India?
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answered Why did Jews not immigrate to the Muslim world?