Timeline for Were Confederate pikes just a curious item to laugh at?
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| Oct 23, 2017 at 13:10 | comment | added | SPavel♦ | @andejons Pikes were used extensively by Russian conscripts repelling Napoleon's invasion in 1812. | |
| Oct 23, 2017 at 11:47 | comment | added | user1095108 | I just clarified my question, didn't change anything. All changes came after EDIT. | |
| Oct 23, 2017 at 11:39 | comment | added | Tom Au | @user1095108: I did my best to answer your original question. You just asked a followup question as to why the debate continued without being resolved, and production continued. I can't answer a question about how the Confederate bureaucracy worked. All I can answer is "Were these meant just to entertain troops in the field?" My answer is no, because "serious" people thought about using them in combat. I answered the question you posted six hours ago, which was not the version you just posted. | |
| Oct 23, 2017 at 11:27 | comment | added | user1095108 | I don't think you have actually answered my question. I know about the Stonewall Jackson discussion and that Lee agreed to the use of the pikes, but if you look at the first video, you will see, that the pikes were made in 1865, when Jackson was long deceased. How could the "discussion" about the use of the pikes continue until the end of the war? I would expect some use by then, or that the production of pikes would cease. | |
| Oct 23, 2017 at 8:58 | comment | added | Matt |
they didn't actually use them Charles XII definitely made use of infantry pikes, at the very least, in the Battle of Poltava (1709). However, even then pikes were only useful to cover against enemy cavalry.
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| Oct 23, 2017 at 7:59 | comment | added | Tom Au | @andejons: As I remember, they didn't actually use them, only "thought about" using them. But Jackson would have been comfortable with Charles XII's mindset, "Att gaa paa." (Jag talar lite Svensk.) Basically stabbing weapons would not become "secondary" until the advent of repeating weapons. | |
| Oct 23, 2017 at 7:48 | history | edited | Tom Au | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Oct 23, 2017 at 7:45 | comment | added | Tom Au | @PieterGeerkens: Clarified that to say that the Union used Springfields, and the Confederates Enfields. Added an apposition to state my "real" point that Springfields were not repeating weapons, which is to say that stabbing weapons such as bayonets and"pikes" had some usefulness against them. Thanks for your help. | |
| Oct 23, 2017 at 7:43 | history | edited | Tom Au | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Oct 23, 2017 at 7:38 | comment | added | andejons | Interesting. I thought that Charles XII of Sweden was the last major commander to use the pike, in the early 18th century (it was considered oldfashioned by then as well, but turned out to be surprisingly effective). Also, you've repeated one of your links. | |
| Oct 23, 2017 at 7:03 | comment | added | Pieter Geerkens | Springfield, as in Springfield Massachusetts; I think not. The Confederate Army mostly used the British Pattern 1853 Enfield. | |
| Oct 23, 2017 at 6:05 | history | answered | Tom Au | CC BY-SA 3.0 |