Timeline for Was California named after a Moorish ruler called Queen Calafia?
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| Jul 19, 2023 at 12:41 | comment | added | Evargalo | @user20490 : Mauritius Island was named such by Dutch sailermen, either after Prince Maurits of the House of Nassau, the stadtholder of most of the Dutch Republic, or after their main boat, the Mauritius. In any case, this is not at all a reference about the ethnicity nor the skin color of its inhabitants. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… | |
| Jun 11, 2020 at 1:06 | comment | added | user44626 | @Tal Man back off user20490 just didn't know… wow didn't know that Mauritius was Hindu! makes me feel proud about my religion… | |
| Aug 20, 2018 at 17:39 | comment | added | Emmanuel Dan | @Tal Is it a crime to not know everything. Who named the Island Mauritius was it not Europeans. Who named the country of Mauretania was it not Europeans. When a country is named "Maur", "Moor" it must be because the people who named it believed that the inhabitants were Moors. None of these Nations is a black country. The Berbers are not black. So why did they interpret or infer the Blackness of Queen calafia in the translation of that novel. That's all I was asking. But you started acting towards me in bad Faith. | |
| Aug 20, 2018 at 17:22 | comment | added | Tal | @user20490 The people of North Africa were Berbers. They were conquered by Arab-Muslim expansion from the east. The area subsequently became gradually more Arabized over time. The whole Mediterranean region is a cultural melting pot due to trade. The idea that Iberians didnt associate Moorish invaders with black skin is trivially disproven by art of the time. Mauritius has nothing to do with North Africa. It is an island in the Indian Ocean thousands of miles away. I'm accusing you of either being incredibly ignorant or actively acting in bad faith. | |
| Aug 20, 2018 at 15:52 | comment | added | Emmanuel Dan | @Tal Mauretanians are arabs and the people of Mauritius are Hindu. The people of Morocco are arabs. So that's why I'm inquiring into why the Spanish novelists associates the Moor with blackness. That's what I'm asking. | |
| Aug 20, 2018 at 15:49 | comment | added | Emmanuel Dan | @Tal What you are doing is not polite. You are accusing me of being deceptive. Deceptive about what? Deceptive towards whom? | |
| Aug 20, 2018 at 15:41 | comment | added | Tal | @user20490 I'm not sure if you are confused or being intentionally deceptive. Mauretania is a latin word referring to a region in North Africa, where the native people are certainly dark skinned though generally less so than those further south in Central Africa. Mauritius is an island in the Indian Ocean. It is a thousand miles off the coast of the other side of the continent. Unfortunately for your rather apparent views, yes, it appears that California could very well be named after the fictional black queen of a fictional black 'amazon-like' island. | |
| Aug 18, 2018 at 17:36 | comment | added | jamesqf | Naming places after myths is not at all uncommon. Consider for instance the number of places in the Spanish-settled Americas that are named "El Dorado": nationalgeographic.com/archaeology-and-history/archaeology/… | |
| Aug 18, 2018 at 14:17 | comment | added | Emmanuel Dan | A solid answer Jos. +1. But does this novel imply that the Moors were black. Cos that is another hot claim in these Afro-centric circles. The people of North Africa, Morocco, Mauretania are not black. In fact the people of Mauritius are Indians. | |
| Aug 18, 2018 at 11:49 | comment | added | b.Lorenz | Or she was named after her fictional realm | |
| Aug 18, 2018 at 7:21 | comment | added | PhillS | So in summary, no there never was a queen Calafia and yes, California was named after her :) | |
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| Aug 18, 2018 at 0:09 | history | answered | Jos | CC BY-SA 4.0 |