Timeline for Is there any economic history account of the role of Japan's precious metal deposits in the roles of the country's early industrialization?
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| Feb 9, 2019 at 14:37 | comment | added | J Asia | @xuq01 - In general, I agree with Kentaro's answer. From mid-17th to mid-18th century, Japan needed import-substitution strategies because precious metal mines were obviously depleting. Yoshimune (8th Shogun) worked hard on this. And he is credited with turning the Edo economy around because by late-18th c. Japan were exporting foodstuff, rather than precious metals. Hence, early Meiji (1868 onwards) economy could not have relied on exporting precious metals. Unfortunately I'm not up-to-date on Japan's econometric history - your request for quantitative source, so I can't provide more. | |
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| Feb 8, 2019 at 2:59 | comment | added | xuq01 | Let me look at the books I already have and probably go to the library too. I'll come back with more sources. Now this discussion is more constructive :-) | |
| Feb 8, 2019 at 2:58 | comment | added | xuq01 | OK, my statement was inaccurate. What I really wanted to say is "in the early modern period", which begins before the Tokugawa period. Certainly, there was large amounts of trade conducted previous to the promulgation of the sakoku law. Also, as you already know, sakoku does not mean absence of trade with foreign countries. There indeed was trade with the Netherlands, and other foreign ships flying Dutch flags. I'll have to revise my claim and take another look at my books to refresh my memory (indeed I am not very familiar with economic history in this period). | |
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| Feb 7, 2019 at 15:03 | comment | added | xuq01 | I will be waiting to see your new arguments, but before then I can't be fully convinced. | |
| Feb 7, 2019 at 15:02 | comment | added | user12387 | Okay,sorry for that ( I missed your line ). Anyway, the conclusion is still there is nothing to do with the volume of the production and the industrialization. I would like to make an another approach. | |
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| Feb 7, 2019 at 14:57 | comment | added | xuq01 | I already mentioned the production drop by the end of the 19th century in my question, so obviously I know that. | |
| Feb 7, 2019 at 14:54 | comment | added | xuq01 | Also, of course we know that industrialization is heavily tied to light industries such as weaving; this is called the British model. That alone, however, does not show the absence of other factors. What your answer shows is there is a large outflux of gold. However, it proves nothing other than that. | |
| Feb 7, 2019 at 14:53 | comment | added | user12387 | I will update later. One thing you don't know, Iwami Ginzan's volume of production heavily decreased due to the too much dig at around 1867. | |
| Feb 7, 2019 at 14:51 | comment | added | xuq01 | Still, I see no evidence showing the irrelevance. Evnt A is related to event C does NOT mean it iss irrelevant to event B. And it is certainly untrue that Europeans do not want silver: silver taels rather than gold taels were the standard way to pay large sums of money (for example, Boxer Indemnity) at the time. People wanting A does not mean they don't want B. | |
| Feb 7, 2019 at 11:49 | comment | added | user12387 | I mean, if you get 15 silvers, then you can exchange that amount to 3 golds in Japan. That's what Tokugawa Shogunate tried hard to prevent. | |
| Feb 7, 2019 at 11:42 | comment | added | user12387 | As I answered, non Japanese, especially Europeans, wanted rather Golf than silver. Because if you can get 1 gold in Japan, you can exchange that gold to 15 sillvers in Europe, and you can get 3 golds. There is nothing to do with the industrialization of Japan. | |
| Feb 7, 2019 at 11:38 | comment | added | user12387 | Because it is a high school level question, indeed here. | |
| Feb 7, 2019 at 5:08 | comment | added | xuq01 | I can read Japanese, so a book/paper in Japanese is fine. | |
| Feb 7, 2019 at 5:08 | comment | added | xuq01 | It seems that this is from a high school history tutoring website, without formal references. Are you aware of any academic papers/books about this subject (the economic history of precious metal in early modern Japan)? | |
| Feb 7, 2019 at 4:24 | history | answered | user12387 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |