Popular perception is that technology and science stopped advancing for quite some time after the fall of the Roman Empire. Is this true? Or were significant advances steadily made, just at a slower rate? When did these advances occur, and what were they?

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    The popular perception is completely wrong. For one thing, the "Fall of the Roman Empire" (which is usually how people refer to the fall of the Western empire) was fairly localized to Western Europe. The Chinese, for instance, didn't even know what the Roman empire was in anything but the broadest terms, and so their development was hardly affected by its fall. – Steven Burnap Mar 30 '16 at 19:56
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    The wikipage Timeline of Historical Inventions is by no means complete, but if you study it, you'll see that most of the inventions on it during the period you appear to be asking about happened in the Far East (China). – CGCampbell Mar 31 '16 at 1:03
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    Maybe you want to limit your question geographically as well as topically. Major technological advancement may mean many things, it may include architecture (cathedrals), military technology and metallurgy, agricultural technology (early agricultural revolution) etc. – Greg Mar 31 '16 at 2:48
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    "major technological advance" is very difficult to define, and makes the question veer into "opinion" territory. We've had heated discussions about how to measure the rate of technological changes ("significant advances steadily made"). I need to think further before I can offer a constructive edit suggestion. – Mark C. Wallace Mar 31 '16 at 8:45
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    One possible candidate would be the three-field system of crop rotation and the heavy plough or carruca. Unfortunately I am not very knowledgeable about the subject and my only references are Wikipedia (which locates them in VIth-VIIth century in Europe), maybe someone can elaborate more. – SJuan76 Mar 31 '16 at 10:46

It depends what you mean by the fall of the Roman Empire. Are you talking about the sack of Constantinople in 1453, or the second sacking of Rome in 476? Based on your first sentence, I'm assuming you're talking about the latter. Science continued on just fine in the east, and in Constantinople. Greek fire was a pretty big thing that I can think of off the top of my head, but that was 672, and you probably want something closer to 476. The Hagia Sophia was rebuilt in 532 and had the largest dome in the world for almost a thousand years.

If you're only wanting Western European developments, then yes, things did slow down somewhat, as the lack of centralized power in the Italian Peninsula led to more tribal warfare between Germanic and Gallic peoples. The Franks developed over the next several hundred years as well, and they were no slouches either. Sure they weren't inventing dromons and turtle ships, but civilization was still strong.

Basically, yes, there was still growth in the west, albeit at a slower rate since the centralized economic infrastructure necessary for big scientific advances was for the most part lacking. In the near east, growth continued just as it had for hundreds of years prior. The middle east was doing fairly well, though, and within 200 years, Muhammad had started the Caliphate and was rivaling the Byzantines in terms of military capability. It is also important to remember that from the 3rd, up to the 8th century and beyond, the plague would periodically show up to ravage centers of high population. So that threw a bit of a wrench into things.

As was mentioned in the comments, that doesn't even bring China into play. Up until the 14th/15th century, China was the strongest centralized military state on the planet.


First of all, the Romans were not particularly known for being scientists. Can you even name a Roman scientist or inventor? It's not that easy. I can name a lot of GREEK scientists: Aristotle, Euclid, Eratosthenes, Archimedes, Heraclitus, Hipparchus, Ptolemy, etc. About the only Roman scientific author I can think of is Pliny, however, Pliny was not really a scientist, he was an encyclopedist and what did he write about? Mostly the work of GREEK scientists.

So, if you think the Romans were big inventors or scientists, you have the wrong idea. In fact, I can name more Greek scientists killed by Romans (Archimedes for example), than I can name Roman scientists.

In terms of the most major advancement during the 5th century (after the Western Roman Empire collapsed and the city itself was largely obliterated) I would probably say the forged stirrup. The Huns had introduced the stirrup to the world, but their stirrups were made out of bone and not easily duplicated. The Romans figured out how to imitate these stirrups in steel. This would have required a very high quality, malleable steel. So, I strongly suspect some important innovations were made in steel metallurgy at this time to make this possible.

The typical metal alloys available before 400 AD, would rapidly fracture or break if used as a stirrup, so there must have been an important advancement made in steel quality.

The steel stirrup allowed for a special new kind of troop called a "bucellarius". These were the shock troops of the General Belisarius. They carried a new kind of weapon (also introduced by the Huns): the mounted lance. It is only possible to use a mounted lance if you have stirrups. Also, the bucellarii could fire arrows from the saddle which is difficult without a stirrup.

Ring Rolling

The principle of ring rolling (from the Wikipedia)

One possible invention that may have made this possible is ring rolling. This is a technique for forging a ring of steel and results in a very strong loop. This would be the first step in making a steel stirrup that would be strong enough. Unfortunately, little is known about ancient forging techniques, but if ring rolling was invented at this time, then that would explain the appearance of the stirrup.


I suppose you are asking of the major technological advances in Europe. (If otherwise, perhaps the the most important inventions were made in China, gunpowder, for example. Paper was invented before the fall of the Roman empire.)

In Europe, the two most important technological advances in the Medieval time were eyeglasses (1286) and mechanical clocks (1176).

Of course, this is a very long period between the fall of the Roman empire and these inventions. But I suppose that no MAJOR technological advances were made during this period: this was a period of general decline (in Europe and in the Middle east) if not a complete collapse of civilization.

  • The Middle East didn't decline until Genghis Khan showed up in the thirteenth century. – Steven Burnap Mar 31 '16 at 19:22
  • @Steven Burnap 4: Please don't forget that Middle East (and North Africa) was a part of the Roman empire. And the most developed part by the way. And decline was even sharper than in the West. – Alex Mar 31 '16 at 23:47

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