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I have gotten my hands on a handmade Diplomacy variant, however for the life of me I can't figure out which period it is supposed to represent. Of course the author had to take liberties when designing the map, but I would just like to know which generic period we're talking about.

A map showing most of Europe. Yellow controls London, York, and Bordeau; Blue controls Rouen, Paris, and Dauphine; Brown controls Saxony, Brandenburg, and Bavaria, Light Brown controls Denmark, Norway, and Sweden; Orange controls Vilnius, Krakow, and Kiev; Green controls Budapest, Croatia, and Transylvania; Red controls Bulgaria (and likely other portions outside the image border); Dark Green's control in the Iberian peninsula is visible but the names are not, but don't include Aragon or Navarra. All other divisions on the map are uncolored.

From the research I have done so far I think it's a late medieval period, but I am far from sure, to be honest.

closed as off-topic by jwenting, Rathony, SMS von der Tann, KorvinStarmast, NSNoob Oct 7 '16 at 9:26

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    I don't think it represents any particular period. It includes the papal states, which would suggest the middle ages but Wales appears to occupy a large chunk of western England and Cornwall, which wasn't the case during any part of the middle ages - It's a game-balanced map not a historic one. – Steve Bird Sep 28 '16 at 13:25
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    @SteveBird Yeah, figured as much when I said 'had to take liberty', guess I just underestimated how much liberty :) Oh well, the 1500 ± 200 is the kind of answer I was looking for, even though I don't like it much xD . – David Mulder Sep 28 '16 at 14:48
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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because questions based on fantasy/games are not History. – TheHonRose Sep 29 '16 at 1:22
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    @TheHonRose : The question is not an in-universe question about a fantasy map. The question was what kind of real historical period this drawing most closely resembles. – vsz Sep 29 '16 at 6:20
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    I like this question for its puzzle nature and welcome it here. – Drux Sep 30 '16 at 5:05
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1400

A notable feature of this map is the English possession of Western France, which means that it's no later than 1453, when France took Bordeaux. Since in the Diplomacy game you color only the ownership of "supply centers" (represented by circles on the map, the larger industrial/population centres) this is consistent with France owning Paris, Rouen and Dauphine and the rest of the provinces being "unimportant" - the same with Wales, as it's not a "supply center" then it cannot have an owner and it being without color does not imply Wales being independent from England.

Another feature is an unified Denmark, Sweden and Norway, which happened from 1397 as Kalmar Union.

This year is also consistent with a Castile without Aragon, possession of Kiev by Poland-Lithuania and Bulgaria owned by Ottomans.

The only liberty taken seems to be a bit overly unified Germany-Brandenburg.

  • @KillingTime the game map does not show Wales controlling anything, and it does not show York and Lancaster being as distinct political regions. As per Diplomacy rules, this map shows a political entity controlling London,York and Bordeaux; an independent political entity controlling Scotland, and the rest of regions there are just geographical - they cannot be "controlled", they're just used for unit movement. – Peteris Sep 28 '16 at 16:25
  • Not sure if you're claiming this is a historic map or not. You assert that this represents Europe in 1400 and then state that the region boundaries are "per Diplomacy rules...". Clearly the divisions within Wales and England do not show any historically accurate boundaries for 1400. – Steve Bird Sep 28 '16 at 16:29
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    @SteveBird the region boundaries represent a split of the whole map for "movement purposes" in roughly equally sized geographical (not political) regions. The political structure, on the other hand, is represented only by the coloring (or not) of the regions with circles in them; this map indicates that at this point Rouen, Paris and Dauphine are owned by one entity, Bordeaux, London and York are owned by another entity; Flanders and Scotland are independent from both, and doesn't say anything whatsoever about ownership/control of other regions w/o the circles e.g. Gascony, Wales, etc. – Peteris Sep 28 '16 at 16:37
  • Perhaps a bit earlier than 1400: the Hapsburgs gained Tyrol in 1369. – Drux Sep 30 '16 at 5:04
  • @Drux in this map Tyrol is not a SC, so there's no information about who has or hasn't gained Tyrol. However, it cannot be ~1369 because then Denmark/Sweden/Norway aren't unified. – Peteris Sep 30 '16 at 8:06
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This map is not historically accurate.

For example there is an entity called "Prussia" and an entity called "Novgorod", while in reality they never existed at the same time.

It's a mixture of maybe 1500ish plus minus 200 years and a lot of artistic freedom.

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    As well as Budapest. Buda and Pest united in the 19th century. – CsBalazsHungary Sep 28 '16 at 13:47
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    Uh That is incorrect. Prussia is there for the Baltic region Prussia, not the German state Prussia, headed by House of Hohenzollern – NSNoob Sep 28 '16 at 13:48
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    As you can see, Brandenburg is displayed as a free entity when in fact Hohenzollerns of Prussia came from Brandenburg – NSNoob Sep 28 '16 at 13:49
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    The map does not show an entity called Prussia, but the region was named so for a thousand years and certainly overlaps many centuries where Novgorod was the dominant city of the region drawn there. – Peteris Sep 28 '16 at 15:38
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    Another point: Finland is under the control of Novgorod. Anything close to that did not happen until the 18th century, and then only for a brief time. Finland was only under permanent Russian control from the Napoleon wars until the end of WWI. From the thirteenth century to 1809, it was part of Sweden. – andejons Sep 29 '16 at 10:26

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