In 680 Bulgar tribes under the leadership of Asparukh moved south across the Danube and settled in the area between the lower Danube and the Balkan, establishing their capital at Pliska.

A peace treaty with Byzantium in 681 AD marked the beginning of the First Bulgarian Empire. The Bulgars gradually mixed up with the local population, adopting a common language on the basis of the local Slavic dialect.

Thus, the earliest and official date of Bulgarians on the Balkan Peninsula is at the end of the seventh century, however, according to The Ravenna Cosmography compiled by an anonymous cleric in Ravenna around the sixth century:

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The label Bulgari on the same Balkan area:

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Now, the existence of Old Great Bulgaria dates back to (at least) 632 AD (if we don't consider the Nominalia of the Bulgarian khans)and its location is on the Western Pontic–Caspian steppe which is far away from the Balkan Peninsula.


Having this in mind, could it be claimed that there were Bulgarians in the Balkans long before the "...Bulgar tribes under the leadership of Asparukh moved south across the Danube in 681 AD..."?

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    I hope you realise that this map is a modern interpretation of the Ravenna Cosmography. The Cosmography is a prose text and does not contain any maps.
    – fdb
    Commented Oct 29, 2016 at 11:49
  • @fdb Yes (and thank you for the clarification), this is a visualisation based on (if I'm not mistaken): archive.org/details/ravennatisanonym00geoguoft
    – Ziezi
    Commented Oct 29, 2016 at 11:57
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    You'd have to go through Romania first so I doubt it. More than like Romania "introduced" Southeastern Europe to their new friends.... Commented Oct 30, 2016 at 3:23
  • Also according to Wikipedia, the cosmography was compiled around 700 AD, not in the sixth century.
    – Spencer
    Commented Jun 24, 2020 at 22:05
  • @Spencer - It seems that the problem of the map is clear, as user fdb commented. What about the plenty of other Latin and Greek sources mentioning Bulgarians living on the Balkans before 7th century mentioned in the answer? Can they switch the answer to the question to "yes"?
    – cipricus
    Commented Nov 23, 2020 at 9:46

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Short answer:

If by "Bulgarians" you understand Slavic people living south of the Danube around the Balkan mountains (today's Bulgaria), then yes, such people already existed there — and not only there (and there not only them) — about 60-70 years before Asparukh, but under a different name in a country that was called differently.

— Otherwise: no.

Longer answer:

could it be claimed that there were Bulgarians in the Balkans long before the "...Bulgar tribes under the leadership of Asparukh moved south across the Danube in 681 AD..."?

Claiming that would be very odd, even absurd. But not completely absurd.

For that we have to forget about those maps. Arguments based on them are not only dubious, but useless. The name “Bulgar” entered Europe with the Bulgar Oghur Turkic invaders, and the date of their first invasion is not a matter of doubt. The country they conquered in the Balkans was called Bulgaria because of them and only after their coming there. After that, the Slavic-speaking people already present there started being called “Bulgars” too, and the present Bulgarians are much more the descendants of those Slavic people. So, in a sense those "Bulgars" or "Bulgarians" were indeed present in Bulgaria before Asparukh, only they were not called that, but simply Slavs. They are the ones that in spite of being conquered have finally imposed their language, because they were much more numerous. Thus, present Bulgarians are closer to them than to Asparukh’s people.

I could make a comparison to the case of Romanians. Wallachia and Moldavia had been occupied by Cumans, and Wallachian ruling dynasty as well as first polities there might be related to them. But they didn't endure enough to give their name to the country. By the time the Romanian states were created Cuman prestige had faded away enough so that the countries got other names (Wallachia from the name of those speaking a Romance language, Moldavia from a river). Had Cumans been as successful as the Bulgars, we might be calling the Romanians “Cumans” these days, the way some Slavic-speaking people are called “Bulgarians” and some Romance-speaking are called “French” (from Franks). Had the Bulgars been as unlucky as the Cumans, the Slavic — and more numerous — people they occupied might have imposed their name onto the country, the way Slovaks and Slovens did. — On the other hand it is worth mentioning that at the time of the Bulgarian empires a lot of Slavic-speaking people (what we now would call "Bulgarians") lived north of the Danube, while a lot of Eastern-Romance-speakers (probably descendants of Latinized Thracians, close to present "Romanians") lived south of the Danube (these, at political level, as well as Cumans, at military level, were very important in the restoration of the second Bulgarian empire). The "mixture" of neighboring peoples is usually rather similar; the language difference may be more or less related to that, and may have various causes.

Otherwise, this question seems like asking if there were any “French” in Gauls before the Franks, or "Russians" in Russia before "the Rus".


Yes, there are numerous sources pointing to Bulgarian people in this region long before the officially accepted 681 year. You can check Saint Jerome's map who lived in 4th century. On the map there is a label - Mesia hec & vulgares which is roughly translated as Moesia here also Bulgaria.

The map is a copy from 12th century which is used as an excuse to claim that this was added later. Note that the authenticity of the copy is not questioned and during the 12th century Bulgarian lands are under Byzantine rule and Bulgaria does not exists as a country.

But even without this map, there are plenty of other Latin and Greek sources mentioning Bulgarians living on the Balkans before 7th century. Here you can check some of these sources.

You can also check this genetic study from 2013 which brings forth some very interesting questions about who exactly are the ancestors of modern day Bulgarians.

And because people tend to ignore external links, I will add some citations:

Marcellinus Comes: The Chronicle of Marcellinus

(A. C. 530.) Ind. VIII, Lampadio et Oreste coss. Mundo Illyricianae utriusque
 militiae ductor, dudum Getis Illyricum discursantibus primus omnium Romanorum ducum 
incubuit, eosque haud paucis ipsorum interemptis fugavit. 
His autem deinde coss. idem dux audaciae suae secundus in Thraciam quoque 
advolans, praedantes eam Bulgares feliciore pugna cecidit, quingentis eorum 
in praelio trucidatis 

This can be roughly translated as :

(year 530) Mundo, the master of the Illyrian soldiery, was the first Roman
 general to set upon the Goths who had previously been traversing Illyricum 
and put them to flight, after quite a few of them had been killed. However, 
later in this consulship, this same leader, fortunate in his boldness, 
hastened into Thrace and also killed, by fighting bravely, the Bulgars who 
were plundering it; five hundred of them were slain in the battle.

or this one from The Chronicles again:

(499) VII. Ioannis Gibbi solius
1 Aristus Illyricianae ductor militae cum quindecim milibus armatorum et cum 
quingentis uiginti plaustris armis ad proeliandum necessariis oneratis contra 
Bulgares Thraciam deuastantes profectus est. Bellum iuxta Tzurtam fluuium 
consertum, ubi plus quam quattuor millia nostrorum aut in fuga aut in 
praecipitio ripae fluminis interempta sunt. 

This can be translated as

(year 499)Aristus, the leader of Illyria went with 15k soldiers and the
 appropriate weaponry against the Bulgarians who were devastating Thrace.
 The battle took place at Tzurtam river where more than 4k of our soldiers 
died either while running or jumping from the high river bank.

And it is not only Marcellinus Comes, there are also Anastasius Bibliothecarius, Jordanes, John Malalas and others. And while their records do not show firm Bulgarian establishment it is quite clear that Bulgarians have frequented Thrace long before 681.

So obviously I cannot agree with other answers that the date when Bulgarians came on their present day state is well established. It is not. Also we cannot talk about Slavs during 5-8 century. Present day people living on this land never called themselves Slavs. This term appeared much later (16-17 century) to describe all people using Cyrillic alphabet and of course they do have something in common, but this is an entirely another discussion.

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    "Hec et vulgares" is Latin for "and these folk" - there's no evidence of a connection to the Bulgars.
    – Spencer
    Commented Jun 24, 2020 at 22:08
  • @Spencer what about the rest of the sources?
    – Ziezi
    Commented Jun 24, 2020 at 23:01
  • @Zeizi The Google Maps thing just looks like a bald assertion.
    – Spencer
    Commented Jun 24, 2020 at 23:06
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    This says that the "Jerome map" was made in 1200, where they updated the description of Moesia.
    – Spencer
    Commented Jun 26, 2020 at 19:48
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    Although the Byzantines occupied the area we call Bulgaria in the 12th Century, This was between the First Bulgarian Empire and the Second Bulgarian Empire, so it is reasonable to assume there were Bulgars there during that time.
    – Spencer
    Commented Nov 20, 2020 at 22:15

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