I have family who claim that their ancestor who was in Massachusetts by 1670 was from Russia, and was Jewish! What are the chances?

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    We will probably not be able to give you the odds. There were Jews in Russia. Some might have left westwards along with other Russians in the 17th century (read up on Peter the Great) and some might not have come back.
    – o.m.
    Feb 12, 2017 at 17:29
  • The concept of "Russia" has always been fairly flexible. Sizable parts of Eastern Europe were already part of the Tsardom of Russia in the 1600s. After many decades of the West conflating the USSR and Russia, the issue is even more confusing - did they mean the historical, or the "modern" definition?
    – SPavel
    Feb 12, 2017 at 19:38
  • Peeter Lurvey my 8th Great Grandfather was that man. My Grandmother was a Lurvey. Aug 17, 2018 at 0:18

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The possibility exists, and one particular family has claimed this heritage for over a century. Genealogical records are sometimes difficult to trace origins, but this is repeated on numerous genealogical sites:

"The name Lurvey is a good transliteration of the German, which is a common name among German Jews. There is a tradition in the Lurvey family that the first Lurvey who immigrated to Massachusetts in the 17th century [Peter Lurvey] was of Jewish descent, and came from Archangel in Russia."

(emphasis mine)

Early publications, almost word for word, so probably some of the earlier records:

So this claim has been repeated in publications for over 100 years. Note the location, Archangel(Arkhangelsk), was a seaport and a center of trade at the time.

Concerning the number of Jews in Massachusetts, according to this article on the History of the Jews in Colonial America

The earliest mention of a Jew in Massachusetts bears the date May 3, 1649, and there are references to Jews among the inhabitants of Boston in 1695 and 1702; but they can be regarded only as stragglers, as no settlers made their homes in Massachusetts until the Revolutionary War drove the Jews from Newport.

From the text there it seems to state none were resident before the late 1700's. This doesn't discount the claim, however, as many immigrant ships arrived in Massachusetts, but the colonists would then move on to settle in other regions.

Concerning the presence of Jews in Russia,History of the Jews in Russia states

The presence of Jewish people in the European part of Russia can be traced to the 7th–14th centuries CE. In the 11th and 12th centuries, the Jewish population in Kiev, in present-day Ukraine, was restricted to a separate quarter. Evidence of the presence of Jewish people in Muscovite Russia is first documented in the chronicles of 1471.

but also discusses the fact that most major emigrations of Russian Jews took place later, so if Jewish individuals made it from Russia to Colonial America in 1670, they were not part of major settlement group or migration wave of similar individuals.

Again, however, an individual or family with the resources could certainly have made the journey.


The chances are minuscule, as there were very few Jews in Russia in the 17th century. Russia acquired major Jewish population only in the second half of the 18th century with the incorporation of Poland.

Hence, those ancestors could be Jews from Europe, but I very doubt they were from Russia. Maybe from Eastern Europe, but hardly from Russia.

  • Maybe from Ruthenia? Jul 20, 2023 at 13:58
  • It seems to me that you are assuming a definition of "Russia" which is not self-evident from the question.
    – Mark Olson
    Jul 20, 2023 at 14:07
  • @MarkOlson That was discussed 3 years ago. Jul 20, 2023 at 14:11
  • Perhaps. But any assumptions need to be evident either in the answer or in the question. Comments are just that and aren't permanent.
    – Mark Olson
    Jul 20, 2023 at 14:16
  • @MarkOlson My point was that it was discussed and, apparently, nothing was done about it Jul 20, 2023 at 14:18

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