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The Vikings discovered Iceland quite early on, in the late 800s, although 'Gaelic monks from Ireland had settled Iceland before that date'.

Unfortunately the date was never recorded. The Viking discovery was accidental, after a Norwegian sailor lost his way whilst trying to get to the Faroe Islands. A settlement was setup in 874 in present-day capital city Reykjavik.

When the Irish monks arrived prior to the Vikings, were they faced with natives who had already setup human settlements?

I would also like to include that island nations like Greenland were populated by natives, without any known landbridge to North America. I have little knowledge on natives and biology and what they stemmed from (Homosapiens/Neanderthals?) but I do know that they evolved into humans.

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    Everything I've ever read has indicated that before the papar arrived Iceland was uninhabited, and indeed, almost bereft of animal life as well. With no disrespect, this is fairly basic knowledge that a Google search could easily turn up.
    – Random
    Feb 13, 2018 at 23:35
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    What is your question?
    – MCW
    Feb 14, 2018 at 0:42
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    @Jake: Iceland had plenty of life, just not humans. WRT Greenland, it's not all that far from North America. IIRC, the Inuit were moving into the northwestern coast around the same time as the Norse were founding settlements in the south.
    – jamesqf
    Feb 14, 2018 at 4:47
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    @Jake - I would say that geologically Iceland is on the mid-Atlantic ridge, so calling it Europe or North America or Oceania would be arbitrary. Its government seems to think it is in Europe (it is a member of the EEA rather than NAFTA)
    – Henry
    Feb 14, 2018 at 10:32
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    @jamesqf - Just to make it clear, the Dorset people were in the far north of Greenland when the Norse got there. The Inuit started moving into that same territory roughly the time the Greenland Norse society started to go into serious decline (Coincidence? Probably not.)
    – T.E.D.
    Feb 14, 2018 at 14:48

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In 1976 Tim Severin proved with the Brendan Voyage it was possible for Irish monks not only to go to Iceland, but all the way to the Americas. He did have a couple of advantages the ancients didn't have:

  • He had the latest navigation equipment
  • He knew Iceland and the Americas were there
  • He had modern safety equipment, in case something went wrong
  • He could radio for help, in case of an emergency
  • He was fairly certain it was possible
  • He had (compared to Inuits) unlimited resources

Thor Heyerdahl sailed on the Kontiki to prove it was possible for Polynesians to reach South America.

Possible doensn't automatically mean it happened, and certainly not on a regular scale. Some Irish monks crossed over to Iceland. That's something else than 'colonized Iceland'.

Inuits simply lacked the means to do it, apart from the technology. They had and have bigger boats than kayaks, but those boats are too small for colonization purposes. Apart from the fact that those boats can't carry a decent load you have to factor in the weather and the distances involved as well. The weather can be pretty horrific in the Arctic. You need sturdy boats for that, and Inuits didn't have them.

For them it would be sailing into the unknown in (most of the time) freezing very stormy seas in boats highly unsuitable. The points I mentioned above about Tim Severin were lacking and that would make it a suicide mission.

So, no. Those Irish monks came to an uninhabited island.

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  • So does this mean that the Irish Monks could’ve been the first Europeans in the Americas?
    – Jake
    Feb 14, 2018 at 0:03
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    That is possible, but as far as I know not proven.
    – Jos
    Feb 14, 2018 at 0:07
  • @Jake - IOW: All kinds of things are possible. Alien transplantation of a Romanian peasant farmer is possible. However, the earliest we have any evidence for is the Norse.
    – T.E.D.
    Feb 14, 2018 at 16:28
  • Okay, I should have said: it is not utterly impossible. But extremely unlikely. Read about the Brendan voyage. Pretty dangerous, even today. If it happened, it was a one time off event.
    – Jos
    Feb 14, 2018 at 23:52
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To my knowledge (though please correct me if I'm wrong) there is no extant historical account of the first Norse settlers in Iceland encountering any previously settled peoples. Quite the opposite actually.

However, mitochondrial DNA analysis of samples taken from skeletal remnants of the medieval Icelandic population tells a very different story. The researchers for this study took DNA samples from 68 medieval Icelandic settlers, and compared the DNA sequences to control samples taken from present day individuals of Celtic and Icelandic descent. The researchers found that the medieval samples more closely matched samples taken from Celtic regions of Scotland than they did samples taken from modern Iceland. The study explicates the divergence between medieval and modern Icelandic genotypes by theorizing that genetic drift is the primary causal factor, rather than gene flow from additional scandinavian settlers.

While this study has been interpreted by popular press in Ireland to demonstrate that:

The Irish were there in numbers when the settlement of Iceland got underway some time around 800AD

In reality this study just demonstrates that early Icelandic populations are genetically more similar to modern day Celtic peoples of Britain than they are to modern day Icelandic people and, with the lack of historical records demonstrating a definitive living Celtic presence on Iceland at the time of the Norse settlement, any historical inferences from the genetic data would be merely speculative.

Is it possible that there were Celtic peoples in Iceland at the time of the Norse arrival and this accounts for the medieval genotype? Yes.

Is there historical proof of this? Unfortunately no.

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    When and how did the Celtics manage to settle in Iceland? I might be incorrect but I am not sure If the Celts were from Ireland.
    – Jake
    Feb 13, 2018 at 23:57
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    All mainstream histories that I'm familiar with explain the genetics, and other celtic connections, as just more evidence of the large number of celtic slaves brought over by the norse colonizers, something we have extensive textual evidence for.
    – Random
    Feb 13, 2018 at 23:59
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    The "Celtic" as an ethnonym refers to the present day populations of Ireland, Highland Scotland, and Wales. There is concrete historical evidence that early Christian Irish monks settled in Iceland and lived a celibate, monastic life. As I mention above here is NO historical evidence that there was ever any widespread Celtic settlement in Iceland. Feb 14, 2018 at 0:00
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    @Era: That interpretation is a good one, I don't dispute that. As I said in my initial post - "this study just demonstrates that early Icelandic populations are genetically more similar to modern day Celtic peoples of Britain than they are to modern day Icelandic people and, with the lack of historical records demonstrating a definitive living Celtic presence on Iceland at the time of the Norse settlement, any historical inferences from the genetic data would be merely speculative". I make no claims to any particular narrative. Just presented some interesting data. Feb 14, 2018 at 0:15
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    Doh, I really should have read that more carefully. My apologies; it's been a long day.
    – Random
    Feb 14, 2018 at 0:16
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Farley Mowat thinks so:

Mowat believes that settlement of Iceland began early in the first millennium AD. After the end of Roman rule in Britain, unrest and military threats to Alba from the Scoti in the west and the Vikings in the north resulted in widespread settlement of Iceland during the 5th to 7th centuries by fleeing Albans.

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The start of Viking occupation of Iceland in the 870s prompted a second move of some of the Albans, this time to the fjords of southwestern Greenland and to central Labrador.

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I feel that it is necessary to separately answer this part of the original question, as it actually ties in with the original question in a profound way:

I would also like to include that island nations like Greenland were populated by natives, without any known landbridge to North America. I have little knowledge on natives and biology and what they stemmed from (Homosapiens/Neanderthals?) but I do know that they evolved into humans.

This sounds to me like stemming from an assumption that the human species has somehow sprung up all over the world as independent populations. According to current understanding, Homo sapiens evolved in Africa, and then migrated into other parts of the world. It seems that all currently living humans descend from migrations that took place less than 100 000 years ago. And while there is clear evidence that these populations interbred with previous groups of humans, not all of whom were Homo sapiens, the genetic impact of this is relatively small (a few percent).

Understanding the origins of Homo sapiens may help in understanding why some parts of the world, such as Iceland, never even had "native" human populations before recorded history. Humans appear to have migrated out of Africa over a very long period of time, and – to clarify – "migrating" here is more akin to "expanding" rather than "moving". The first waves left the continent roughly 100 000 years ago, spreading through Eurasia, and from there to the Americas and the Pacific. The extremes of the latter areas were only reached relatively recently, a few thousand years ago. For example, Greenland, which was mentioned in the question itself, was only populated by "the natives" around 2500 BC. And those were not even the same natives that Europeans eventually encountered:

After the Early Dorset culture disappeared by around 1 AD, Greenland was apparently uninhabited until Late Dorset people settled on the Greenlandic side of the Nares strait around 700.5 The late Dorset culture in the north of Greenland lasted until about 1300.[7] Meanwhile the Norse arrived and settled in the southern part of the island in 980.

Human migration around the area of Greenland

So one could argue that, without Europeans coming from the east, people from the west would maybe have migrated on from Greenland to Iceland, given a few hundred or thousand years. So to answer the original poster's disbelief at Iceland being uninhabited before the Norse, it may well be that Iceland was just so remote that no previous group of humanity had yet had the time to populate it.

But to me the most important point here is the realization that the concept of "natives" is questionable to begin with. From this point of view, there is little difference between the migration of the two groups of humans into (for example) Greenland; "natives" versus "colonists" is simply a misleading narrative, as it's all a part of the same long history of human migration. Another good example is human migration to Polynesia, which took place less than 3000 years ago. In the hundred-thousand-year time scale that humans have been migrating all over the world, there is a time difference of 3% between the "native" Polynesian colonization and the age of European exploration. Homo sapiens evolved inside a relatively small area, then migrated outward from there, so almost everyone is an immigrant or colonist if you look back in time far enough. And, in many areas, Homo sapiens replaced (though not necessarily through direct interaction) previous populations of archaic human species, the "real natives". Who, in turn, replaced previous populations, and so on.

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