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I wonder why the EU uses a Nazi flag like the one from this picture?

enter image description here Source: https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-32598a7f739cbfe57c03e4011891984b

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    Guessing here that you read "a theory" about that? Perhaps around the picture where you stumbled across this? Someone claiming it "to be so". Or is this your own observation? You may want to document this 'research' here. – LangLangC Nov 1 '18 at 13:47
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They didn't.

  1. That isn't a Nazi flag.
  2. The EU didn't use that flag.

That picture seems to be from the 1939 American Nazi organisation rally at Madison Square Garden. The flags in the background are variations on the familiar 'Stars and Stripes':

Stars & Stripes

and the Betsy Ross flag:

Betsy Ross Flag


The picture is just another example of far-right extremists wrapping themselves in the flag of the country they purport to represent. In this case, history shows that they were not representative of the majority view in the United States at all.

As the article cited above observes:

In February 1939 Kuhn and the Bund held their largest rally in Madison Square Garden — ironically, one which marked the beginning of the end for the organization.

The German-born American leader of the German American Bund, Fritz Julius Kuhn, was deported from the United States back to Germany after the war.

It's perhaps worth noting that there is a flag bearing the symbol of the Bund between the two American flags in the picture linked in the question. The lack of resemblance between that flag and the EU flag is striking!


There doesn't appear to be any suggestion that the design of the EU flag was based on the design of the Betsy Ross flag. The circle as a symbol of unity is a common theme (see, for example, Squaring the Circle - Geometry in Art & Architecture, by Paul Calter).

As the Council of Europe described the design in 1955:

'Against the blue sky of the Western world, the stars represent the peoples of Europe in a circle, a symbol of unity. Their number shall be invariably set at twelve, the symbol of completeness and perfection'.

— Council of Europe. Paris, 7–9 December 1955

EU Flag

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    @LangLangC I believe it's called a 'pull-down flag', or 'pulldown flag', and they aren't that uncommon even today. Not something particular to the Bund in 1939. – sempaiscuba Nov 1 '18 at 13:35
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    Perhaps a non-US person wouldn't realize this, but the banner on the far right is clearly a representation of George Washington. I mean, there is 0 doubt of this. – T.E.D. Nov 1 '18 at 13:52
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    @T.E.D. That is mentioned in the article I cited. It also says why the Bund preferred a representation of Washington as a symbol, rather than - say - Thomas Jefferson or James Madison Jr. – sempaiscuba Nov 1 '18 at 13:56
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    Hah. I'm not even sure that needs an explanation. Washington is the unimpeachable symbol of the country. That headshot of him used to be in every single classroom. I don't think those aholes could have been trying harder to make themselves look American without ending up with bald eagle poo all over the stage. – T.E.D. Nov 1 '18 at 14:02
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    @T.E.D. Sorry. Perhaps I should have said an explanation for those unfamiliar with US History (a group that - sadly - includes some Americans, but - happily - not all non-Americans). ;-) – sempaiscuba Nov 1 '18 at 14:05

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