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Did lead poisoning contribute to the fall of Rome? skeptics stack exchange

I actually have had a couple professors in my time comment on how Roman leaders may have had lead poisoning which caused them to make wild or irrational decisions, but overall it doesn't seem the population succumbed to lead poisoning to the extent it lead to Rome's fall in any way.

But, if the Romans used lead so much, like in their pipes or even in their food, why didn't they suffer more from lead poisoning to an extreme extent?

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    Well we can estimate it by looking at how lead accumulated in bones and other tissues and also look at archaeological data that tells us lead was present in their culture. – Vane Voe Feb 28 at 18:52
  • Those 'other tissues' rarely survive in archaeological contexts (occasionally hair, but generally only when the individual was buried in a lead coffin!). The analysis of human skeletal remains from cemeteries in Rome (and other legionary centres in the western empire) have failed to show any evidence for widespread lead poisoning. As for the archaeological record of the material culture of Imperial Rome, the evidence there (as almost everywhere else) is likely to be skewed by the fact that metal objects are generally melted down and re-used. – sempaiscuba Feb 28 at 22:00
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For the question of lead pipes, the 2014 paper Lead in ancient Rome’s city waters, by Hugo Delile et al, probably contains more than enough detail to answer the question. The authors concluded that:

Lead pollution of “tap water” in Roman times is clearly measurable, but unlikely to have been truly harmful.


But piped water was by no means the only source of lead in the ancient Roman diet.

In 1983, the Canadian geologist Dr Jerome O. Nriagu put forward a theory that dietary lead was a major contributing factor in the fall of Ancient Rome (in the book Lead and Lead Poisoning in Antiquity (Wiley, 1983), and the paper Saturnine Gout among Roman Aristocrats — Did Lead Poisoning Contribute to the Fall of the Empire? in the New England Journal of Medicine, March 1983).

To give just one example, it was common in Ancinet Rome to sweeten wine (and many other foods) with a syrup made from boiled grapes. It was believed that the grapes were boiled in vessels made from, or lined with lead.

Experimental archaeologists replicated the process and tested the resulting syrups. They found that the syrups contained between 240 and 1000 milligrams of lead per litre.

As Dr Nriagu observed,

"One teaspoon (5ml) of such syrup would have been more than enough to cause chronic lead poisoning"


However, the effects on Rome's ruling elite that Dr Nriagu hypothesised might have been caused by chronic lead poisoning (like the symptoms exhibited by Claudius, for example) may be the result of a number of different causes. As Dr Nriagu himself observed, the causes of the maladies with which Claudius was afflicted are:

"... a matter of longstanding debate."


Dr Nriagu's conclusions were challenged almost immediately, notably by John Scarborough in his 1984 review of Dr Nriagu's work titled The Myth of Lead Poisoning among the Romans: An Essay Review, published in the Journal of the History of Medicine and Allied Sciences (Vol. 39, No. 4 (October 1984), pp. 469-475).


Although Dr Nriagu still stands by his conclusions, a number of skeletal remains from the Imperial Roman period have been excavated and tested for evidence of lead poisoning since 1983.

While there are certainly some examples that exhibit evidence of lead poisoning (or even severe lead poisoning, as Kristina Killgrove observed in the article Lead Poisoning in Rome - The Skeletal Evidence), this is by no means common. This lack of evidence of widespread lead poisoning in the archaeological skeletal record seems to fatally undermine Dr Nriagu's theory.

Note that Dr Killgrove has made much of her data publicly accessible. Two important datasets here are:

  1. Osteology database on Github (Microsoft Access format)
  2. Roman Osteology dataset on Github, including results of all biochemical analyses that she had undertaken (C, N, O, Sr, Pb isotopes; Pb and Sr concentration)

This enables anyone with an interest in the subject to view the raw data and draw their own conclusions based on that data.


It is very possible that lead was used rather less in Roman cooking vessels than we used to believe.

It is certainly true that some ancient authors, like Pliny (Natural History, XIV, 127-135) and Columella (On Agriculture, XII, 19) for example, express a preference for lead vessels, but as Scarborough argues (in the paper cited above) this 'preference' might also suggest that

"... Romans most often used bronze cauldrons (copper and tin in alloy), not those of lead"

This interpretation would be wholly compatible with the archaeological evidence.


Given the lack of skeletal evidence for widespread severe lead poisoning, it seems reasonably clear that lead poisoning was not the primary cause of the Fall of Rome. This is the reason for the present consensus within the scientific community, which is briefly summarised by Hugo Delile in the paper cited at the start of this answer:

"... today lead is no longer seen as the prime culprit of Rome’s demise"

  • One thing Kilgrove admits is that the osteological data are not correlatable to social strata. "The Romans" might well be quite the difference: to most higher ups and esp Caesars whi were crazy, for power, and after sapping too much defrutum. Lead can make you – and your offspring – much faster dumber than other problems associated to actual 'poisoning'. And that may as well be amplified by other factors. I'd read the above as merely: not a monocausality and perhaps overestimated? – LаngLаngС Feb 28 at 18:44
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    One aspect of the lead pipe issue that's gotten attention with the Flint, Michigan crisis is that lead pipes can develop a mineral coating that separates the water from the lead surface, reducing or eliminating the lead contamination. (Flint's decades-old system lost this protective layer when it start using more corrosive water and stopped adding a supplemental protectant.) So the use of lead piping doesn't inevitably imply lead poisoning. – jeffronicus Feb 28 at 18:46
  • Ah, btw: The defrutum is a problem in itself. But the pipes are so fast getting insulated from sediments of limescale and the like that plain water rfom those lead pipes is very probably less to blame. AFAIK 'the Romans' had quite the taste for especially hard water… – LаngLаngС Feb 28 at 18:47
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    @VaneVoe The archaeological evidence presently shows that lead poisoning was not widespread in Ancient Rome. That in itself is an adequate reason to argue that lead poisoning didn't lead to the fall of Rome. – sempaiscuba Feb 28 at 19:03
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    @LangLangC It is rarely possible to identify individuals in archaeological contexts, or even groups (like the Imperial family, for example). However, the Romans had an extensive "civil service" to manage the day-to-day running of the empire, so even if lead poisoning were a factor for the highest levels of Roman society, it would be unlikely to have any major impact on the wider Empire. – sempaiscuba Feb 28 at 19:19

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