I would like to know which cannon could have fired such a shell and what does the R stand for? Was it fired in WWI?

The dimensions are as follows: length 58 cm, width at the base 9.5 cm, and width at the top 8 cm. Are they rare?

Base of cartridge case

side view of cartridge case

  • possibly an 88 563r flak shell
    – ed.hank
    Commented Apr 16, 2019 at 17:09

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The shell was manufactured in 1910 at the Wöllersdorf Works factory at Berndorf in Lower Austria (and nicknamed 'Krupp-Stadt' or 'Krupp city', which should give you some idea of what they're famous for!).

Shells manufactured in 1910 could certainly have been fired during the First World War.

The dimensions you've given look to be a pretty close match to the round for the 7.7 cm Flak L/35, (77 x 586R). However, the 1910 date looks to be very early for that.

For what it is worth, the Western Front Museum web site says they have one of these in their collection - although they designate it as the 8 cm Flak L/45K. Unfortunately, they don't have a picture on their web site, but it may be worth contacting them.

As for the 'R' stamp on German / Austrian munitions, that is a new one to me. I'll need to do some more research there.

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    Thank you! I've emailed the Austrian Military History Museum for more information.
    – Felipe
    Commented Apr 16, 2019 at 22:17
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    @Felipe That's great. Do let us know what they say. Commented Apr 16, 2019 at 23:44
  • The Austrian Military History Museum hasn't responded yet. However, I reached an Austria-Hungary historian in twitter who thinks it might be a 10 cm round from a Skoda K10 naval gun. kuk-kriegsmarine.at/adspaun.htm
    – Felipe
    Commented Apr 18, 2019 at 18:01
  • @Felipe Hmm. I'd say that is unlikely. The barrel of the Škoda 10 cm K10 had a calibre of 10cm. That means the internal diameter of the barrel was 10cm. According to your measurements, your shell case was intended for a weapon with a calibre of about 8cm (a more accurate measurement of the internal diameter at the top would help here). Commented Apr 18, 2019 at 18:21

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