First of all apologies if there is one community site more appropriate for this.

I have been reading today on a lot of Spanish right wing sites a quote attributed to Lenin: "Contra las almas la mentira, contra los cuerpos la violencia". Also in reverse: "Contra los cuerpos, la violencia; contra las almas, la mentira." My modest translation would be "against the souls, lies; against the bodies, violence".

The quote appeared on one site as "Contra los cuerpos, la violencia. Contra las almas, la mentira y la calumnia. Contra los muertos, el silencio", that is "Against the bodies, violence. Against the souls, lies and slander. Against the dead, silence".

None of the sites stays where Lenin supposedly wrote that.

On a couple of other sites, they attribute it to Serguéi Necháyev, on his Catechism of a Revolutionary. But I have found a document with it and the quote doesn't appear anywhere.

I'd like to know who said that quote first, where, and if possible, who caused a possible misattribution.

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    I haven't found this quote on English. It could be something fabricated on Spain, or it could be that it has a different translation to english.
    – Flamma
    Apr 27 at 15:45
  • Google books lists a few instances from the late 1930s, so it is not a recent invention. But the texts are paywalled, making it hard to backtrack. Apr 27 at 21:17

Not really an answer but a collection of materials, so marked as community wiki:

Since the earliest translations of the "Catechism" were done from Russian to French, I would expect a "French version" of the quote to be current if the quote really exists in the Russian original, but I wasn't able to find any. Another approach would be to try to "re-translate" the quote into Russian and search for sources.

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    According to Worldcat, Criterio is a Buenos Aires publication. Apr 28 at 10:34
  • @kimchilover - thanks for the hint, fixed - on Criterio, see also Spanish WP (hope it's the same...).
    – tohuwawohu
    Apr 28 at 11:07
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    The most commonly cited text of "Catechism" in Russian has no phrase that I could reasonably imagine being the origin of the quote. Apr 29 at 8:20

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