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The First World War ended when an armistice was signed between the Germans and the Allies. At that point, while Germany had no realistic hopes of winning the war, they had no enemies within their borders and still had troops in enemy territory.

I believe this apparent "victory" exacerbated the belief that Germany was betrayed by civilians at home (ie: the Dolchstoßlegende). The armistice wasn't officially a surrender, but apparently the terms were not very good for a country that wasn't really defeated.

So, how unfavorable were the terms of Germany's "surrender" in WW1?

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    Are you referring to the Armistice terms or the Versailles Treaty? – David Thornley Nov 10 '11 at 13:27
  • I do think you are correct, had the allies forced a surrender then it may have been that the political development of mid-war Germany could have looked different. But they didn't know how bad the situation in Germany was, so they thought that an outright victory would take very long, and they were very stretched as well. As such it really was a case of both sides losing. The bad terms were not because the Allies won, but because Germany started the war, and that the collapse of Germany became apparent after the armistice. The armistice terms can not be said to be very unfavorable. – Lennart Regebro Nov 15 '11 at 11:33
  • Compared to the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, the terms of German surrender were reasonably kind and humane. – sds Jan 4 '15 at 22:37
  • Agreed. The Germans still had a country at the end of the war. So it was more favourable than a lot of peace treaties at the time. – Ne Mo May 9 '16 at 22:46
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Very unfavorable. While the Treaty of Versailles doesn't explicitly call it a surrender, Germany did surrender and was forced to accept all responsibility for the war (while obviously not being the only party responsible). I will refer to the text of the treaty in the following. In particular:

  • Germany lost the Saar Basin to France "as compensation for the destruction of the coal-mines in the north of France and as part payment towards the total reparation due from Germany for the damage resulting from the war" (Article 45).
  • Germany lost Alsace and Lorraine to France "recognising the moral obligation to redress the wrong done by Germany in 1871" (Part III, Section V). This formulation was dictated by France and was regularly criticized by Germans - Germany obviously didn't want to recognize that it did anything wrong in the Franco-Prussian War.
  • Germany lost significant territories to Poland (Part III, Section VIII) which divided the country in two - the area around Königsberg was no longer connected to Germany, one had to go through Poland.
  • Germany lost all its colonies (Article 119) and essentially had to drop all its interests outside Europe (Part IV).
  • The German army couldn't exceed 200,000 men (Article 163), the navy could no longer have more than 6 battleships (Article 181) and the military use of airplanes was forbidden altogether (Article 198).
  • Willhelm II (no longer Kaiser but still an important figure to all Germans) had to face a trial "for a supreme offence against international morality" (Article 227).
  • The amount of reparations (Article 235) was extremely high and was a significant burden on German economy (which had to recover from the war in the first place) until removed.

And much more. Feel free to look through the document, you will see that to a large part its purpose was to humiliate Germany and to destroy it as a world power. This intent backfired - this treaty didn't let Germany get over its defeat, instead Germany kept seeking a way to retaliate and to circumvent the restrictions.

  • I haven't been able to find anything in the Versailles treaty saying Germany was accepting responsibility for the war, only a clause that Germany and allies accepted full financial responsibility for all damages. – David Thornley Nov 10 '11 at 13:29
  • @DavidThornley: How about Article 231? The word "financial" isn't mentioned there but "responsibility" and "aggression". Also, Part VII goes very much into this direction as well. – Wladimir Palant Nov 10 '11 at 13:38
  • Germany didn't really "lose" much territorry to Poland - it rather relinquished control over the parts of Poland it annexed in the end of the XVIIIth century. – quant_dev Nov 12 '11 at 15:59
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    @quant_dev: You can use that argument for pretty much any territorial change - almost always the territory used to belong to somebody else some hundred years ago. – Wladimir Palant Nov 12 '11 at 17:20
  • @WladimirPalant I don't think Germany ever felt fully at home in the annexed Wielkopolska. There would be no need for Kulturkampf, otherwise. – quant_dev Nov 14 '11 at 11:34
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Here is an excerpt from an essay I just finished on German rearmament:

Under the Treaty of Versailles, the Reichswehr (the German military prior to the Nazi party assuming power) was severely limited in its power. The army was restricted to 100,000 men, including only 4,000 officers. Similarly, the navy was limited 15,000 men, and all members of both forces had to be volunteers. The navy was banned from possessing submarines and limited to six warships, while the use of an air force was forbidden. The types and amount of weapons the Reichswehr was permitted to possess were described in meticulous detail, with only light arms and field guns allowed; heavy guns and armour were banned. All possible measures were taken to prevent Germany from rebuilding her military with speed or secrecy; The general staff were officially dissolved; production of each munition was limited to a single factory; all but four military schools were closed and the Reichswehr was not allowed to keep soldiers’ records after they left the military, so that ex-soldiers could not be rapidly recalled at the onset of war.5

And citation 5. reads: John Gooch, Armies in Europe (London: Routledge & Kegan Paul, 1980), 196; Warren Bayard Morris Jr., The Weimar Republic and Nazi Germany (Nelson-Hall, 1982), 240-241; Herbert Rosinski, The German Army (Frederick A. Praeger, 1966), 211–212, 221.

Also; it isn't entirely true that heavy guns were banned: There were a few fixed-position heavy guns allowed at Königsberg, though no where else.

Other books that discuss the Treaty of Versailles: Adam Tooze, The Wages of Destruction: The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy (London: Allen Lane, 2006). (Limited to its economic impact and how it effected the later Nazi economy) Götz Aly, Hitler’s beneficiaries: Plunder, Racial War, and the Nazi Welfare State (New York: Metropolitan Books, 2007) (Similar economic disucssion as above but with a very different interpretation.) Otto Nathan, The Nazi Economic System: Germany’s mobilization for war (Duke University Press, 1944) (Older book, most of the facts on the treaty should be right, though the interpretation of the effects may be outdated) W. M. Knight-Patterson, Germany: from Defeat to Conquest: 1913–1933 (George Allen / Unwin Ltd., 1945). (Again, facts but possibly not interpretation)

Also it should be noted that I said 200,000 men in the German army above; The Reichswehr had plans to expand to 200,000 men in defiance of the treaty before Hitler took power, but couldn't get the money together, so only small expansions were made before the Nazis took over. They did do a fair bit of stuff in defiance of the treaty though.

  • This is all good stuff - but it doesn't answer the question of whether the terms were unfavourable. – Steve Melnikoff Nov 21 '11 at 14:44
  • It demonstrates who was dictating terms and how much they took advantage of it. I mainly put it up to correct the above answer (which lists 200,000 men) and add sources, which I consider essential to answering a question. – Canageek Nov 21 '11 at 15:17
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Germany, was, without doubt, defeated, even though the siutation of the Armistice allowed the impression to develop that it wasn't. Germany was very much 'really defeated'. The fact that Germany continued to occupy enemy territory and had no/few enemy troops on its own doesn't alter that fact that it was defeated. The difference perhaps being that it was annihilated, as it was in the following war.

Furthermore, Germany had no realistic hopes of continuing the war, had Germany not requested the Armistice then the Hundred Days would have continued and Germany had no hope of being able to resists for more than a few months.

The Allies/Associated Powers were under considerable strains, militarily, economically and socially; but these were as nothing compared with the problems Germany faced.

Depending upon what your question actually is; the terms of the Armistice were harsh, perhaps too much so, but the over-riding concern was to prevent any possibility that Germany might be able to renew the war if it rejected the Armistice. The Allies/APs were acutely aware that restarting the war would be incredibly difficult politically.

As for the Treaty of Versailles, that's a rather complicated and nuanced question. To a large extent it was a political problem, more than any other. The reparations didn't have a significant detrimental effect on the German economy (given American loans and the behaviour of Schacht)- Germany was doing very well until the Great Depression. The military conditions allowed a new generation of thinkers and technology to emerge (and redirected resources to the civilian economy).

That Germany was required to take the whole responsibility for the war wasn't reasonable, and the loss of Alsace-Lorranine was inevitable (though Bismark never wanted the annexation in the first place, for precisely the reason that it would cause a war with France).

I would argue that the intention was more to prevent a recurrence of German European hegemony than prevent 'world domination' per se. The rise of the German Empire and its eclipse of the Hapsburgs had forced a resolution of many centuries-long issues between other European powers (the Entente Cordiale being the most significant) and Germany specifically chose to exacerbate the concerns of its rivals leading to a war that it was militarily, but not politically, able to win.

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    +1 for pointing out that Germany WAS defeated. – Felix Goldberg Dec 23 '12 at 1:36
  • I agree that the "undefeated German army" is a myth. And that the effect of the reparations is sometimes exaggerated, given that most of it was never paid anyway and that German industries were relatively unscared by the war compared to Belgian and French ones. However, I'm a bit shocked by this assumption about German economy: Germany was doing very well until the Great Depression ; what about this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic ? – Evargalo Feb 14 '18 at 15:48
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Question:
The First World War ended when an armistice was signed between the Germans and the Allies. At that point, while Germany had no realistic hopes of winning the war, they had no enemies within their borders and still had troops in enemy territory......The armistice wasn't officially a surrender, but apparently the terms were not very good for a country that wasn't really defeated.

The phrase, "for a country that wasn't really defeated" is incredible misleading and mistaken. Germany was entirely defeated in WWI.

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After 4 years of fighting, Germany was exhausted militarily, economically and culturally.

So what happened in Germany in the last two months of the war? The string of military defeats Germany endured in the allies "the 100 days offensive", august of 1918, resulted in large scale surrender of Germany troops in the field. Germany's chancellor under the conservative, Chancellor Georg von Hertling resigned and was replaced by the reformer Prince Maximilian of Baden. Prince Maximilian forced the resignation of General Erich Von Ludendorff, the commanding general in charge of Germany's military who fled to neutral Sweden. Germany's civilian population revolted against the German monarchy under Kaiser Wilhelm and ultimately removed Prince Maximilian from office. The German Imperial Monarchy collapsed when General Groener, the successor to Ludendorff, backed the Democratic Government under Friedrich Ebert. Thus the federal constitutional Monarchy fell and was replaced with a democratic parliamentary republic that later became known as the Weimar Republic. Groener did so because he feared a revolution such that Russia experienced the preceding year, would bring more radical and destructive factions to power, such as the communists.

Germany quickly called for and signed the armistice because their country was in turmoil not only unable to continue the war but at risk of tearing itself appart.
The Chancellorship had changed hands twice in two months. The monarchy had collapsed and no longer ruled. Their military was in disarray. Those who hadn't surrendered yet had revolted, or at least ceased to support the monarchy. Their economy was shattered. Quite literally Germany feared the radical elements inside their own boarders more than the allies in 1918. Germany's defeat was total.

One of the reasons the armistice was so one sided was that the allies feared that once Germany had a chance to address it's domestic troubles it would return to the fight. Thus the armistice first required Germany to disarm, making a continuation of the war in the near terms impossible.

Germany was ordered to give up 2,500 heavy guns, 2,500 field guns, 25,000 machine guns, 1,700 aeroplanes and all submarines they possessed (they were originally asked to give up more submarines than they actually had!). They were also asked to give up several warships and disarm all of the ones that they were allowed to keep.


How unfavorable were the terms of Germany's “surrender” in WW1?

First What are we talking about when we say Armistice: The Armistice was an agreement signed by representatives of France, Great Britain and Germany. It was an agreement to end fighting as a prelude to peace negotiations. The Treaty of Versailles signed six months later would act as the peace treaty between the nations.

Without listing all of the terms as Wladimir Palant did in his fine answer.

By signing The Armistice and the Treaty of Versailles, Germany were made to accept the blame for the First World War and would have to pay reparations for the damage caused, estimated to total about £22 billion ($35 billion, €27 billion) in current money. It was only in 2010 that Germany paid off its war debt, with a final payment of £59 million ($95 million, €71 million).

The Treaty of Versailles is what we want to talk bout not just the armistice agreement.

In June 1919, the Allies declared that war would resume if the German government did not sign the treaty they had agreed to among themselves. The Germany government now headed by Philipp Scheidemann was unable to agree on a common position, and Scheidemann himself resigned rather than agree to sign the treaty.

The Treaty of Versailles included

  • Territorial changes
    Stripped Germany of 25,000 square miles (65,000 km2) of territory and 7 million people.

  • Mandates:
    Article 119 of the treaty required Germany to renounce sovereignty over former colonies and Article 22 converted the territories into League of Nations mandates under the control of Allied states.

  • Military restrictions.
    The treaty was comprehensive and complex in the restrictions imposed upon the post-war German armed forces (the Reichswehr). The provisions were intended to make the Reichswehr incapable of offensive action and to encourage international disarmament.

  • Reparations.
    Germany accepted responsibility for the losses and damages caused by the war "as a consequence of the ... aggression of Germany and her allies."[97][nb 2] The treaty required Germany to compensate the Allied powers, and it also established an Allied "Reparation Commission" to determine the exact amount which Germany would pay and the form that such payment would take.

  • Guarantees
    To ensure compliance, the Rhineland and bridgeheads east of the Rhine were to be occupied by Allied troops for fifteen years.[104] If Germany had not committed aggression, a staged withdrawal would take place; after five years,

US President Woodrow Wilson attended the Versailles Peace treaty but the United States would never ratify that treaty, in part because of strong opposition to the terms of the treaty in the US Senate. German and Irish Democrats objected to the one sided terms; while Republicans who controlled the senate objected philosophically to the League of Nations which was specified in Article 10 of the Versailles Treaty. It stated the League of Nations had the authority to commit it's signatories to war without consent of the United States Congress, and this the Republican Senate would never tolerate, and thus never ratified the Peace Treaty ending WWI.

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