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Jul 12, 2018 at 23:42 comment added Jos @Graham I don't know what you have been smoking, but I want it too! All I said is that I seriously doubt those figures. Nothing more. I am a Dutchman, and know roughly what I'm talking about. 25% atheists, that was perhaps in 1970.
Jul 12, 2018 at 17:24 comment added Graham @TED But a Christian who acknowledges that still has faith, and still cares. For the rest of us, Christianity has good parts, but also has bad parts. All the good parts are also covered by non-religious ethics though, and all the bad parts are highlighted and avoided by non-religious ethics. So just follow non-religious ethical behaviour, and you don't need the religion. That's why most people don't care.
Jul 12, 2018 at 15:29 comment added MCW Please revise to ensure that the answer is more explicitly responsive to the question.
Jul 12, 2018 at 15:06 comment added T.E.D. @Graham - Well, these things can get really complicated. One of my longtime favorite websites is Church of the Apathetic Agnostic (Motto: We don't know, and we don't care.) I could point you to a lot of Christians who have sympathy for that attitude. Their motto is roughly, "We don't know for sure. That's why its called faith."
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Jul 12, 2018 at 14:19 comment added David Richerby How does this answer the question? The question is why but you've just presented a bunch of numbers that don't explain anything.
Jul 12, 2018 at 10:41 comment added Graham @Jos The issue there is that "atheist" tends to imply you have a strong opinion on it. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference - and most Europeans simply don't care enough to have an opinion. The problem for statistics is that this tends to put you into the "agnostic" category, which also includes people who genuinely wonder if there is a God (or gods) or not. For most of us though, the question of whether God exists is about as relevant as the question of whether a pine cone fell off a branch on a specific tree in a forest in Lower Carpathia exactly 25 minutes ago.
Jul 12, 2018 at 6:43 comment added MSalters @Jos: Presumably the data is from "Greeley/Jagodzinski, 1991", which means it's at least 27 years old.
Jul 12, 2018 at 4:30 comment added Jos I don't know on what data this list is based, but The Netherlands with 25% atheists? That's preposterous. That should be at least 50%. Probably a lot higher. Likewise, 88% for the DDR seems a bit high.
Jul 11, 2018 at 22:51 comment added Relaxed @PaŭloEbermann It might be worth stressing that most people currently living in the former East Germany (perhaps including yourself?) never actually left anything... for they were not yet born in the 1950s.
Jul 11, 2018 at 20:17 comment added Paŭlo Ebermann @Mitch the quote in the question mentioned "konfessionslos", which means "not belonging to any religious community". Most non-believing people in GDR actually left the two big christian churches (pressured by state and society), and didn't have much incentive to join again forty years later (as you have to pay a small percentage of your income to the churches then). I'm not sure how much of them actually would call themselves "atheists", though. (I'm one of those people born in the GDR as atheist, and still being one.)
Jul 11, 2018 at 17:19 comment added Mitch I find those numbers very hard to believe. Wait... no, lots of people are non-believers, but will not check off 'atheist' on a form.
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