Timeline for Why is the late Russian Empire associated with Byzantium while having little in common with it?
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| Aug 13, 2020 at 13:48 | comment | added | MCW♦ | I think we're making simple things complex; the Russian empire was more interested in affiliating themselves with a glorious heritage than they were in historical accuracy. | |
| Aug 13, 2020 at 13:04 | history | edited | sempaiscuba | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 13, 2020 at 12:28 | history | edited | MCW♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 11, 2020 at 19:57 | answer | added | llywrch | timeline score: -1 | |
| Feb 20, 2020 at 5:02 | answer | added | Propensity Elk | timeline score: 6 | |
| Feb 19, 2020 at 13:08 | vote | accept | Sinusx | ||
| Feb 19, 2020 at 3:47 | comment | added | Mazura | A word to describe an excessively formal process or procedure? – ELU. You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. | |
| Feb 18, 2020 at 15:44 | comment | added | hegel5000 | In contrast, the modern nation-state of Turkey tries its best to pretend to have nothing to do with Eastern Rome, despite having far more in common: the Ottomans basically re-captured the entirety of Eastern Rome from various Arab and other Turkic dynasties. By the way, Istanbul is just a Greek-language name which commoners had called the city for quite some time, and the star+crescent symbol had long been associated with it, before the city was even called Constantinople. | |
| Feb 18, 2020 at 1:30 | answer | added | Tom Au | timeline score: 12 | |
| Feb 17, 2020 at 20:35 | comment | added | reirab | "The title Tsar is not Byzantine and was first used by the Bulgarians." Don't they all ultimately trace back to transliterations of the Roman title 'Caesar?' Maybe the Bulgarians were the first to use the particular transliteration 'Tsar,' but they were most certainly not first to use the title. | |
| Feb 17, 2020 at 17:51 | comment | added | MCW♦ | @Sinusx, please move the clarifications into the question. The question should contain everything that OP knows, and everything that is necessary for research. Comments are barn cats | |
| Feb 17, 2020 at 17:49 | answer | added | Moishe Kohan | timeline score: 10 | |
| Feb 17, 2020 at 17:15 | answer | added | user27618 | timeline score: 11 | |
| Feb 17, 2020 at 13:40 | comment | added | Sinusx | While Russia did share the same religion and claimed to be the heir to Byzantium after the fall of Constantinople on religious grounds, it is not the case that Russia exported many institutions from Byzantium. So even the Russia of 1550 does not necessarily have too much in common with Byzantium - and the book is about pre-revolutionary Russia. Hence I do not see why it would be a good idea to explain the relations between the Tsar and the people by comparing to Byzantium on a slim ground that Russia claimed descendancy for the reasons of prestige some 350 years prior to that. | |
| S Feb 17, 2020 at 11:57 | history | suggested | muru | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Feb 17, 2020 at 6:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackHistory/status/1229284452888698880 | ||
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| Feb 17, 2020 at 4:01 | comment | added | Greg | I have problems to understand your question(s). It seems to me that the text (although I know only the short quoted part) does not say what you assume it says. Russian orthodox church and the derived power of the tsar is clearly built on and historically ascending from the Byzantine tradition - no one says they invented everything. For centuries the Eastern and Western Christian traditions were clearly sperate from each other, so does the role of the church and religion in politics. | |
| Feb 17, 2020 at 2:02 | comment | added | user18968 | See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Rome | |
| Feb 17, 2020 at 0:27 | comment | added | Tomas By | Religion is what you seem to be missing. Russia, Greece, Serbia/Bulgaria are Orthodox. Most of Europe is Catholic/Protestant. | |
| Feb 16, 2020 at 23:36 | answer | added | d.k | timeline score: 42 | |
| Feb 16, 2020 at 23:28 | comment | added | suchiuomizu | I have not read this book, but before reading this question I would have wondered if anyone outside of Russia really believed in this connection in any meaningful way, which as I understand it was mostly tied to one of the last Byzantine princesses marrying into the Russian royal family and them try to use it to claim they were the 'Third Rome' after the fall of Constantinople? | |
| Feb 16, 2020 at 23:20 | comment | added | Sinusx | @MarkC.Wallace I changed the title into a question. To expand on that: why is the late Russian empire is associated and compared to Byzantium, even though the two states seem to have very little in common? Would it be more appropriate to compare the pre-revolutionary Russia with some more recent states where more similarities exist? | |
| Feb 16, 2020 at 23:13 | history | edited | Sinusx | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Feb 16, 2020 at 21:31 | history | asked | Sinusx | CC BY-SA 4.0 |