Timeline for Was the title "Prince of Wales" originally claimed for the English crown prince via a trick?
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| Nov 25, 2020 at 10:29 | vote | accept | Dave | ||
| Nov 21, 2020 at 13:50 | comment | added | Spencer | @DougDeden This use of "never" would probably make a good question on ELU. | |
| Nov 19, 2020 at 14:42 | comment | added | Andrew is gone | @RonJohn the OED has "never a X: not a single X, no —— at all" attested from the thirteenth century onwards, so it looks a reasonably sound interpretation. | |
| Nov 19, 2020 at 5:38 | comment | added | Doug Deden | @RonJohn Nope. No evidence. Just speculation. I'll see what I can find, but you should never hold your breath. :-) | |
| Nov 19, 2020 at 4:46 | comment | added | RonJohn | @Semaphore an interesting thesis; what's some evidence that it was used in this manner in Early Modern English? | |
| Nov 19, 2020 at 0:40 | comment | added | Semaphore | @RonJohn I believe the "never" here should read as "not in any way". The word "ever" still retains this sense: see for instance "how ever did you know" or "how can I ever repay you". | |
| S Nov 19, 2020 at 0:32 | history | suggested | Ángel | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 19, 2020 at 0:04 | comment | added | RonJohn | @DougDeden perhaps "never" ... but didn't yet have its "for all time" meaning. That's an interesting thesis. Do you have any evidence? | |
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| Nov 18, 2020 at 23:22 | comment | added | Doug Deden | @RonJohn Considering that it is in a earlier flavor of English, perhaps "never" had its negative meaning, but didn't yet have its "for all time" meaning. So a modern translation would be more like "could speak not a word of English". | |
| Nov 18, 2020 at 23:18 | history | edited | Semaphore | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 18, 2020 at 20:43 | comment | added | RonJohn | "and could speake never a word of English". Unless his son Edward died before age 1, I'm dubious how that part of the story would be true. | |
| Nov 18, 2020 at 12:17 | history | edited | Semaphore | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 18, 2020 at 11:58 | history | answered | Semaphore | CC BY-SA 4.0 |