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Painting, c. 1485. An artist's interpretation, since the only known direct portrait has not survived. (Centre Historique des Archives Nationales, Paris, AE II 2490)

i.e. - We don't know that she really looked like.

Also:

could be counter productive in a camp full of men frustrated at the state of their country.

I don't think that History supports your theory, particularly in the case of France: During the French Revolution there were similar situations - attractive women involved in battle. In fact, in History, Carlyle in 1.7.V describes one of the most prominent a figures in the Revolution, one Demoiselle Theroigne, who was compared by some to Joan of Arc also know as "the Maid of Orleans". (Perhaps we can deduce from the comparison to Joan of Arc that Joan was also reasonably attractive, although this is admittedly a stretch.)

The seized cannon are yoked with seized cart-horses: brown- locked Demoiselle Theroigne, with pike and helmet, sits there as gunneress, ‘with haughty eye and serene fair countenance;’ comparable, some think, to the Maid of Orleans, or even recalling ‘the idea of Pallas Athene.’

Anne-Josèphe Théroigne de Méricourt

She was the most prominent of the women involved in the French Revolution, but there also were many others, and Carlyle is not shy about describing some of them as quite fetching indeed. Yet they were not a distraction, but an asset: they inspired and encouraged the men, they sometimes fought themselves, and most interestingly, according to Carlyle's account (disputed by others) Demoiselle Theroigne actually led a group of women during the Women's Insurrection and March to Versailles whose mission it was go and mingle with certain groups of soldiers loyal to Louis XVI, and seduce them into submission.... Much more has been written about the role of women in the French revolution as well (sources forthcoming...)

Bottom line: It seems that if you're busy fighting a war trying to fix your country, you probably have other things on your mind. You accept even very attractive women as soldiers and leaders and stick to business. Time for fun after the war.

Painting, c. 1485. An artist's interpretation, since the only known direct portrait has not survived. (Centre Historique des Archives Nationales, Paris, AE II 2490)

i.e. - We don't know that she really looked like.

Also:

could be counter productive in a camp full of men frustrated at the state of their country.

I don't think that History supports your theory, particularly in the case of France: During the French Revolution there were similar situations - attractive women involved in battle. In fact, in History, Carlyle in 1.7.V describes one of the most prominent a figures in the Revolution, one Demoiselle Theroigne, who was compared by some to Joan of Arc also know as "the Maid of Orleans". (Perhaps we can deduce from the comparison to Joan of Arc that Joan was also reasonably attractive, although this is admittedly a stretch.)

The seized cannon are yoked with seized cart-horses: brown- locked Demoiselle Theroigne, with pike and helmet, sits there as gunneress, ‘with haughty eye and serene fair countenance;’ comparable, some think, to the Maid of Orleans, or even recalling ‘the idea of Pallas Athene.’

Anne-Josèphe Théroigne de Méricourt

She was the most prominent of the women involved in the French Revolution, but there also were many others, and Carlyle is not shy about describing some of them as quite fetching indeed. Yet they were not a distraction, but an asset: they inspired and encouraged the men, they sometimes fought themselves, and most interestingly, according to Carlyle's account (disputed by others) Demoiselle Theroigne actually led a group of women during the Women's Insurrection and March to Versailles whose mission it was go and mingle with certain groups of soldiers loyal to Louis XVI, and seduce them into submission.... Much more has been written about the role of women in the French revolution as well (sources forthcoming...)

Bottom line: It seems that if you're busy fighting a war trying to fix your country, you probably have other things on your mind. You accept even very attractive women as soldiers and leaders and stick to business. Time for fun after the war.

Goodbye Lennart-Goodbye Lennart-Goodbye Lennart-Goodbye Lennart-Goodbye Lennart-Goodbye Lennart-Goodbye Lennart-Goodbye Lennart-Goodbye Lennart-Goodbye Lennart-Goodbye Lennart-Goodbye Lennart-

Painting, c. 1485. An artist's interpretation, since the only known direct portrait has not survived. (Centre Historique des Archives Nationales, Paris, AE II 2490)

i.e. - We don't know that she really looked like.

Also:

could be counter productive in a camp full of men frustrated at the state of their country.

I don't think that History supports your theory, particularly in the case of France: During the French Revolution there were similar situations - attractive women involved in battle. In fact, in History, Carlyle in 1.7.V describes one of the most prominent a figures in the Revolution, one Demoiselle Theroigne, who was compared by some to Joan of Arc (also know as "the Maid of Orleans"):

The seized cannon are yoked with seized cart-horses: brown- locked Demoiselle Theroigne, with pike and helmet, sits there as gunneress, ‘with haughty eye and serene fair countenance;’ comparable, some think, to the Maid of Orleans, or even recalling ‘the idea of Pallas Athene.’

Anne-Josèphe Théroigne de Méricourt

She was the most prominent of the women involved in the French Revolution, but there also were many others, and Carlyle is not shy about describing some of them as quite fetching indeed. Yet they were not a distraction, but an asset: they inspired and encouraged the men, they sometimes fought themselves, and most interestingly, according to Carlyle's account (disputed by others) Demoiselle Theroigne actually led a group of women during the Women's Insurrection and March to Versailles whose mission it was go and mingle with certain groups of soldiers loyal to Louis XVI, and seduce them into submission....

Bottom line: It seems that if you're busy fighting a war trying to fix your country, you probably have other things on your mind. You accept even very attractive women as soldiers and leaders and stick to business. Time for fun after the war.

Painting, c. 1485. An artist's interpretation, since the only known direct portrait has not survived. (Centre Historique des Archives Nationales, Paris, AE II 2490)

i.e. - We don't know that she really looked like.

Also:

could be counter productive in a camp full of men frustrated at the state of their country.

I don't think that History supports your theory, particularly in the case of France: During the French Revolution there were similar situations - attractive women involved in battle. In fact, in History, Carlyle in 1.7.V describes one of the most prominent a figures in the Revolution, one Demoiselle Theroigne, who was compared by some to Joan of Arc also know as "the Maid of Orleans". (Perhaps we can deduce from the comparison to Joan of Arc that Joan was also reasonably attractive, although this is admittedly a stretch.)

The seized cannon are yoked with seized cart-horses: brown- locked Demoiselle Theroigne, with pike and helmet, sits there as gunneress, ‘with haughty eye and serene fair countenance;’ comparable, some think, to the Maid of Orleans, or even recalling ‘the idea of Pallas Athene.’

Anne-Josèphe Théroigne de Méricourt

She was the most prominent of the women involved in the French Revolution, but there also were many others, and Carlyle is not shy about describing some of them as quite fetching indeed. Yet they were not a distraction, but an asset: they inspired and encouraged the men, they sometimes fought themselves, and most interestingly, according to Carlyle's account (disputed by others) Demoiselle Theroigne actually led a group of women during the Women's Insurrection and March to Versailles whose mission it was go and mingle with certain groups of soldiers loyal to Louis XVI, and seduce them into submission.... Much more has been written about the role of women in the French revolution as well (sources forthcoming...)

Bottom line: It seems that if you're busy fighting a war trying to fix your country, you probably have other things on your mind. You accept even very attractive women as soldiers and leaders and stick to business. Time for fun after the war.