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A question here about Ptolemy made me wonder when the authors started to cross-reference to give strength to their arguments.

Wikipedia states (without source) that one of the first bibliographers was Conrad Gessner in 1545, and here I've found this question about the first modern footnote starting in the late 17th century.

These are interesting start, but an author could have been used to strengthen own arguments even before.

While I've always found in textbook reference between author, I've not found first hand sources - so I wonder if the confrontation between authors is something that is made in modern time (e.g. "as we see that xxx say similar thing as yyy, so he must have know yyy works").

In ancient time production and distribution of book was not as simple as now (books where hand written, for example) and also for a scholar should have not been so easy to get a copy (and so to be able to produce quotes).

It is known the fist time an author has used the specific word (verbatim quote) of another author in its arguments?

I would have liked to identify - if possible - the earliest documented sample. I know the question may not be answerable, but does it really need other details or clarification?

I'm looking (like in @cmw answer) for the text in which an author cites literally another. While it may be trivial for many, I'm not familiar with original ancient text

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    Am I correct to assume that by "specific word" you are referring to a verbatim quote from someone else's work, rather than a paraphrasation?
    – njuffa
    Commented Sep 5 at 11:19
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    It is not clear what exactly are you asking about. Ancient Greek authors frequently cited other authors, especially the famous ones like Homer or Hesiod. Cited literally.
    – Alex
    Commented Sep 5 at 12:02
  • @njuffa question updated
    – Dan M
    Commented Sep 5 at 12:05
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    My understanding is that rather a lot of ancient works we know about survived only as quoted snippets in other works (and some not even quoted, so we know them only by what other authors wrote about them). If I had to take a guess, I'd say this phenomenon is roughly as old as the Alphabet/Abiad.
    – T.E.D.
    Commented Sep 5 at 13:14
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    @Alex He's asking about the earliest practices. Athenaeus was centuries after the Alexandrian grammarians, who in turn were centuries after Herodotus.
    – cmw
    Commented Sep 8 at 3:05

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I'm not sure about citation in other traditions, but in the Greek world it goes back to at least the fifth century BCE.

The Histories of Herodotus (writing around the 420s BCE) might qualify as the earliest to cite an ancient author for an argument. He quotes from the Iliad (6.289-92) and the Odyssey (4.277-30 and 4.351-352) in order to argue that Homer knew of the tradition that Helen in Troy was actually a phantasm, and that her real body was in Egypt.

Herodotus actually quotes from others, too, including famously Pindar's line that "nomos is king" (Hdt. 3.38.4), though the usage is less of a scholarly argument and more of a relation of an aphorism. However, Plato in the Gorgias (written around 380) in fact cites the very same passage in order to strengthen an argument. He places the quote in the mouth of Callicles, a sophist, who says:

δοκεῖ δέ μοι καὶ Πίνδαρος ἅπερ ἐγὼ λέγω ἐνδείκνυσθαι ἐν τῷ ᾁσματι ἐν ᾧ λέγει ὅτι
—"νόμος ὁ πάντων βασιλεὺς / θνατῶν τε καὶ ἀθανάτων."

And this I take to be the sentiment of Pindar, when he says in his poem, that:
    Law is the king of all, of mortals as well as of immortals;

Whereas Herodotus cites Homer on a very limited basis (and some have argued that 2/3 of those citations are spurious), it's more systematic in Plato, showing an in-depth engagement with literary sources. More than Herodotus, I'd say Plato is the first to truly cite others.

The approach is more formalized in the Hellenistic era. With the construction of the libraries at Alexandria, Pergamum, and Antioch, scholarship on texts depended much more heavily on accurately citing those texts. It is in this milieu where we get the scholia and those traditions. They're citing not only words, but sometimes book numbers and naming poems. Their citations are closest to the modern ones. As Eleanor Dickey puts it:

The real beginning of Greek scholarship in our sense of the term, however, occurred with the foundation of the library and Museum at Alexandria in the early third century BC, and for centuries the librarians and other scholars there were the most important Greek scholars.

At this point, though, we're nearly two centuries after Herodotus' Histories.

So the answer to your title question would be "the Alexandrian scholars" and the answer to the question in your body would be "probably Herodotus, at least by Plato."

For general works on Greek scholarship, I'd say start with two books: Eleanor Dickey's Ancient Greek Scholarship and Rudolf Pfeiffer's The History of Classical Scholarship. The latter is more of a general history of scholarship, while the former is more geared towards a modern scholar who desires access to scholarship of the ancients.

For specific scholarship on Homeric criticism, you might want to start with the Wikipedia page on Homeric scholarship, which has some numbers on Homeric quotations. There's a newer monograph on Herodotus specifically, Bruno Currie's 2021 Herodotus as Homeric Critic, but I've not yet had a chance to explore it in depth.

If you have access to JSTOR/ILL, two articles that discuss the quotes I mention at length are Neville's 1977 "Herodotus on the Trojan War" (G&R 24.1: 3-12) and Humphrey's 1987 "Law, Custom and Culture in Herodotus" (Arethusa 20.1: 211-220). I also found this talk, whose abstract might interest you. And for Plato and Pindar, and the lyric poets in general, see Demos' 1999 Lyric Quotation in Plato. There's a lot of scholarship on Plato's citations of other works, but this one would get you started, and it's free to read online.

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  • thanks! do you have a source to be consulted?
    – Dan M
    Commented Sep 5 at 15:01
  • @DanM Done. Let me know if you need more info than this.
    – cmw
    Commented Sep 5 at 21:03
  • thanks! was looking for this answe
    – Dan M
    Commented Sep 6 at 8:37
  • Plato's Giorgias was probably written about a generation or so after the histories of herodotus. I think would seem like more than "a bit" to Plato living his life for about a generation..
    – MAGolding
    Commented Sep 7 at 23:34
  • @MAGolding Correct. I'm not sure why I wrote it that way. Fixed now, thanks.
    – cmw
    Commented Sep 7 at 23:46

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