A large part of the current population of South America are descendants of both native Americans and Europeans. In contrast, in north America the intermingling of native Americans and Europeans was significantly less common. What are the historic reasons for this difference?
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7North American natives weren't as conductive to mixing being largely nomadic. South American ones were a lot more setted.– DVKCommented Mar 16, 2013 at 14:20
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6An additional consideration is that North American natives look a lot less distinctive from caucasians, so any mixed offspring - especially diluted - would very likely look caucasian enough that you wouldn't know that mixing occurred. And given the historical discrimination, anyone of mixed blood who could pass for a non-native would prefer to do so, over many generations. Which means you're probably undercounting the mixing in North America.– DVKCommented Mar 16, 2013 at 14:22
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4@Anixx- there's probably some truth to that, but most likely not the way you meant. Catholics were a lot more forceful about converting South American natives to Christianity - which meant that to Catholic Caucasians, they were "religiously" valid marriageable match. The degree of conversion in North America was significantly less - due to less prozelytizing (especially via the sword) nature of Protestantism. This meant that "heathen" North American natives weren't acceptable marriage matches to Christian. Remember that racism was a lot less of a factor in that time frame compared to religion.– DVKCommented Mar 16, 2013 at 14:25
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3Another factor that may have influenced it is that both Spanish and Portugese were a lot more used to interracial dealings due to exposure to Moors and Sephardi Jews (as long as the latter converted to Catholicism, and weren't marranos or moriscos), compared to French or English or Dutch.– DVKCommented Mar 16, 2013 at 14:34
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3I suppose you could write quite a comprehensive answer based on these comments. :)– Darek WędrychowskiCommented Mar 16, 2013 at 16:53
5 Answers
One reason was that the "Anglos" brought their own women with them. For instance, there were women passengers on the Mayflower. And twelve years after the settlement at Jamestown, there was a boatload of women (in 1619), followed by many more.
The Spaniards also had more "multicultural" dealings, as noted in the comments above. The Spanish religious ideology was one of converting the "natives," which in practice meant absorbing them into Spanish society and intermarrying with them once they converted. English society did not have similar mechanisms for absorbing children of mixed parentage. In the rare situations where Anglos produced "half breeds" with Indians, the children almost always became "Indians" rather than Anglos.
"American" men DID produce children with African slaves. But they were consigned to the lowest levels of society (until modern times), and didn't "mix" with the rest of American society. "Segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever" was the North American ethos as late as the 1960s.
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1I've seen statements to the effect that the gender ratio in Spanish settlers (e.g., aside from initial military expeditions) wasn't much different from that of English settlers. (E.g., references in this article: scholarcommons.usf.edu/cgi/…) Commented Jun 14, 2016 at 11:54
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@PeterErwin: That MAY be true. But Spanish settlers were also more inclined to marry than English settlers; Catholic Church and all that. The other issue is that the children of "Anglos" and Indians usually joined the Indians, and lost track of their "bloodlines."– Tom AuCommented Jun 14, 2016 at 16:13
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Sure; the much higher willingness of Spanish settlers to intermarry is in fact part of my answer (below). Commented Jun 14, 2016 at 16:32
I think you could argue for a fundamental difference in the Spanish and English attitudes toward "colonization" of the Americas, based partly on different historical backgrounds and partly on where they started.
Once the Spanish got to the Americas proper (as opposed to the Caribbean islands), they encountered populous agricultural and urban societies, including sophisticated kingdoms and empires (especially the Aztecs and Incas). The model provided by Cortes and Pizarro thus became (crudely speaking): "Conquer the native kingdoms and rule over them (and marry their women). When you want more land, go on expeditions to conquer it." The strong Catholic missionary impulse of the time also meant a strong emphasis on converting the natives to Catholicism, which made it easier for Spaniards to intermarry with them. (Note that both Cortes and Pizarro married local princesses.) This was arguably a continuation of the Reconquista model: conquer the Moorish kingdoms and rule over the (non-Christian) locals as you try to convert them. It probably also was affected by the multinational nature of the Spanish/Hapsburg empire in the 16th Century: if Flemish and Italians and Germans could all be subjects of the Emperor, so could Indians in the Americas.
For the English colonists (as well as, e.g., the Dutch in New Amsterdam), the model was more "Buy or steal small amounts of land from the natives to set up your own independent settlements. Don't interact with the natives aside from trade, and when you want to expand, buy or steal more land and push the natives away (or kill them)." Thus, despite the interactions and occasional intermarriage that did take place (and the occasional efforts at missionary activity), English colonists tended to remain segregated in their own societies, building their own towns and gradually expanding at the expense of native populations.
Another possible factor: The lands the Spanish conquered included numerous long-established agricultural societies (with genuine cities), which generally meant they had higher populations. This probably ensured that the natives remained relatively numerous compared to the European conquerors/settlers despite the massive die-offs from Old World diseases. The lower population density in most of North America (fewer agricultural societies, and none of them with actual cities) probably meant that it was easier for English colonists to outnumber the natives over time.
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Perhaps some "Aztecs -> civilized, Indians -> barbarians" slant as well. Good answer.– DevSolarCommented Jun 17, 2016 at 12:55
Interracial marriage is not so uncommon. Probably the absence of same-race women played a role, but Portuguese were also well known to marry local wives in Africa, while British and French people usually didn't
The fact that Portuguese and Spaniards have a multirracial origin (arab, celtic, roman, goth) might also have some influence.
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2Valid points. Note that Portugese intermarriage in Africa (and the resultant influx of disease-resitant genetic material) may have been one of the things that allowed them to colonize tropical Africa. The British mostly tried to stick to sub-tropical areas.– T.E.D. ♦Commented Jun 3, 2013 at 17:58
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1British and French also had multiethnic origin (celtic, roman, goth, Jute, saxon, angle, frank, alaman, burgond,etc. -whether they knew about it or not), so I don't really believe in your second paragraph. Religion was much more important than ethnicity by that time.– EvargaloCommented Nov 17, 2017 at 13:14
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Those roots go further back in time; the Iberian peninsula was a multirracial practically at the same time that the discovery of America took place. In any case, I said might. Then, maybe it was no so determinant.– jjmereloCommented Nov 17, 2017 at 16:59
One theory is that King Phillip's war was the cause. The idea behind this theory is simple: When the pilgrims arrived at Plymouth Rock in 1620, the Native Americans aided them in establishing themselves, and helped them not to starve, by teaching the pilgrims, people who had lived as refugees in the urban Netherlands for a generation, to learn farming and survival skills. They even celebrated the first thanksgiving together. In New England, generally speaking, the contact between the Europeans and Natives Americans were more than cordial - there was intermarriage, and conversion to Christianity, and peaceful coexistence.
By about 1670, the mixing of the two populations, combined with declining Native American populations and quality of life, set the stage for "King Phillips War" Supporting Source and Wikipedia links. The common narrative goes like this: Metacom, a Native American nicknamed "King Phillip" by the settlers, started attacking and slaughtering the colonial population. The English colonialist responded in kind, slaughtering the Native American population. Both sides killed whichever "enemy" they came across, including women and children. Persons of mixed heritage were victims of both sides. 5% of the settler and 40% of the Native American population died. The general slaughter led to well defined racial identities that didn't exist before the war, and set the stage for future separate ethnic trends in North America.
There is, of course, an opposing theory presented in this book that the war was instead a civil war intended to increase British control of the region, which used "divide and conquer" strategies, split what was a unified community to increase colonial power. One results of the increase British control was marginalization of the Native population, and a stronger racial identity for the settlers. The British then used racial identity through the colonies to maintain power.
"Divide and Conquer"
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1But the encounter of Spanish and Portuguese settlers with Aztecs and other South-American tribes was rich in slaughters as well, wasn't it ?– EvargaloCommented Nov 17, 2017 at 13:17
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Especially agree with the above comment on King Phillip's War...which was then followed by the French and Indian War. In the US South treatment of native populations was quite brutal..with both Northern and Southern "brutalities" converging as US Settlers started pouring into Ohio then heading West. Allan W Eckert wrote I think excellent albeit fictional accounts of the early era. The stories only grow tragic and more dramatic as "the United States" crosses the Mississippi into the Wild West.
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Looks like you have a valuable contribution to make here, but can you please make it a bit more specific? Other that brutal treatment this answer does not explain really about the lack of mingling. Also a historical reference would be really welcome. As it is you are collecting down-votes I'm afraid. Commented Jun 18, 2016 at 22:24