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The statement "Never fight a land war in Asia" has been variously attributed to Bernard Montgomery, Dwight Eisenhower and Douglas MacArthur. More famously, it appeared in the book and movie The Princess Bride. The phrase seems to suggest that armies that try to take land in Asia inevitably fail.

My question is whether the word land is necessary. Specifically, has there ever been a war...

  • somewhere in Asia (territorial waters are allowed)
  • not primarily on land (perhaps a sea or air battle)
  • won by a country from outside Asia?

My research has only revealed examples of land wars (e.g. Hitler invading the Soviet Union; the Soviet Union invading Afghanistan; the U.S. invading Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan).

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    You heard about WWII in the Pacific, right? Commented Nov 12, 2021 at 4:21
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    By 1944-45, when it was won, the war was decidedly in Asia (Philippines, Okinawa, Iwo Jima, bombing of Japan itself). Commented Nov 12, 2021 at 5:27
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    There was also a successful Allied land campaign against the Japanese, fought mainly by Britain in Burma (now Myanmar). During that campaign, not only was a Japanese invasion of eastern India prevented but Burma largely liberated, allowing that country to be used for air operations in support of the Chinese nationalists fighting the Japanese, and in the support of Malaya and Singapore following the Japanese surrender.
    – WS2
    Commented Nov 12, 2021 at 7:22
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    Hitler invading the Soviet Union was mostly a land war, but in Europe.
    – SJuan76
    Commented Nov 12, 2021 at 9:49
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    I'd argue the interpretation of the adage. Its not arguing such a war is unwinnable. Its arguing that its not worth the cost to try.
    – T.E.D.
    Commented Nov 12, 2021 at 14:02

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Logically, in every war ever fought in Asia, there must have been a winner. If not overly pacifist in its reading, or expecting all too many stalemates.

This dictum is a jokingly formulated advice, not anything remotely like a historical summary of events.

An unstated prerequisite assumption in the question title is euro-centric: obviously from Sumerians onwards many Asian powers fought and won wars in Asia. Mongols won most wars in Asia, before also visiting Europe.

If the question is then about non-Asian powers winning in Asia: then it is also obviously, the Russian Empire won quite a few wars going east (example: Russian conquest of Siberia (1580 – late 17th century)), as did the English when colonising large parts of it, most notably India.

This is arguably 'an old tradition', since the time of the Macedons and ancient Rome. Alexander III left Europe, and except for a small detour to march into Egypt, went to war with Persia mainly in Asia until he reached the Indus. (hat tip to @Jan from comments) Rome started to win a lot of wars in Asia after the battle of Magnesia.

Later, the British Company Raj won for example the Second Anglo-Maratha War (1803–1805), Third Anglo-Maratha War (1817–1818), Indian Rebellion of 1857, or the First Anglo-Sikh War (1845–1846) and the Second Anglo-Sikh War (1848–1849), to name just a few.

So, given this map about Colonialism, most land parts of Asia and quite a bit of waters were conquered sucessfully by European powers, plus a bit of American 'influence':

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And that picture leaves out those uncoloured specs over which or 'with whom' wars were fought, and often won, but which did not result in permanent rule over the territories.

Examples for that include wars with China (the Opium Wars) or Afghanistan. The latter of course being famous for a lot a pyrrhic victories, starting with the First Anglo-Afghan War, albeit the British even achieved their objectives for quite some time with the Second Anglo-Afghan War.

As a 'non-Asian power', the US alone could account for victories in Asia in the Philippine–American War, Moro Rebellion, Boxer Rebellion, and the little episode called World War Two. Even the Korean War wasn't 'lost', strictly speaking. Also, the Tanker War, Gulf War, "Enforcement of Iraqi no-fly zones", and the "Operation Ocean Shield" are commonly counted as successful for the American side.

In the case of quoting the 1987 movie or the 1973 novel this adage is just a joke.

The origin of this phrase is from the aftermath of the US experience in the Korean war and gained much traction from 1964 onwards for perhaps applying this 'lesson learned' also to decisions the US made regarding Vietnam. The early usage for this means '[The US better] never again fight a ground war in Asia' as a general concern and prevalent feeling, not dominating but significant, within even the US military, albeit most often anonymously. Example:

That the U. S. not undertake a prolonged land war in Asia's vastness where China's man power might be effective if the war bogged down. […]

No responsible military leader would choose to commit U.S. troops to a ground war in Asia. No one wants to grind away American manpower in a seemingly endless war against numerically superior forces deep inside China. The U.S. objective, however, is not to fight for the heartland of China, but to prevent the spread of communist control over Asia.

— Lloyd Norman: "No More Koreas", Army (United States Army Combat Forces Journal), Volume 15, Part 2, May 1965. (p31, gBooks)

Or more explicitly, slightly later:

A number of army officers had been skeptical and remembered the lesson of Korea to never get involved in a land war in Asia; however, […]

— Erwin C. Hargrove: "The Power of the Modern Presidency", Temple University Press: Philadelphia, 1974. (p126)

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    Also Alexander of Macedonia
    – Jan
    Commented Nov 12, 2021 at 11:12
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    note that most of the Dutch posessions in Asia came into their power not through war per se but through trade agreements and political support to local leaders and eventual implementation of their power over those leaders. There was fighting, but often it was "advisers" from the Dutch assisting locals, similar to the initial stages of the US campaign in Vietnam and the Soviet campaign in Afghanistan.
    – jwenting
    Commented Nov 12, 2021 at 12:54
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    While this answer raises some great counter-points to the dictum, it does not answer the original question, where "not primarily on land (perhaps a sea or air battle)" was one of the conditions. Almost all of these cited examples were primarily land battles and some, including the Mongols and Russian Empire, were already Asian powers. Commented Nov 13, 2021 at 15:44
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    @SQLServerSteve Technically, the Pacific Front of WW2 was primarily a sea- and air-based campaign.
    – nick012000
    Commented Dec 4, 2021 at 11:59
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    @nick012000 very true, it does meet all of the conditions in the original question at least as far as the U.S. participation in the Pacific Theater vs. Japan was concerned ( although even in that case, some of the engagements were on land in the Philippines etc. - exclusively so in the case of the Chinese/Korean/Southeast Asian resistance to Japanese invasion, etc.). :) Commented Dec 4, 2021 at 15:56
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First Opium War

In 1839, the Daoguang Emperor, rejecting proposals to legalise and tax opium, appointed Viceroy Lin Zexu to go to Canton to halt the opium trade completely. Lin wrote an open letter to Queen Victoria, which she never saw, appealing to her moral responsibility to stop the opium trade. Lin then resorted to using force in the western merchants' enclave. He confiscated all supplies and ordered a blockade of foreign ships on the Pearl River. Lin also confiscated and destroyed a significant quantity of European opium. The British government responded by dispatching a military force to China and in the ensuing conflict, the Royal Navy used its naval and gunnery power to inflict a series of decisive defeats on the Chinese Empire. In 1842, the Qing dynasty was forced to sign the Treaty of Nanking—the first of what the Chinese later called the unequal treaties—which granted an indemnity and extraterritoriality to British subjects in China, opened five treaty ports to British merchants, and ceded Hong Kong Island to the British Empire.

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The wars which ideally fit your conditions are Portuguese wars of conquest. They occurred in 16th century between Portugal (a non-Asian power) and various Asian (and African) powers, most important of them the Ottoman empire and several states in India. The result was generally a Portuguese victory, and this was definitely not a "land war". Typical for these wars were sea battles and landing operations.

Wikipedia: Portugiese-Ottoman conflicts

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What about the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-05? Granted, that included land battles, but it seems that the war was effectively ended by the naval Battle of Tsushima.

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    The Russo-Japanese War and its outcome are as well-known as most of the other conflicts cited in this thread, I'm not sure why it would require additional attribution. The Japanese sank the Russian fleet and that was the end of it; there isn't much more to say. Commented Nov 13, 2021 at 15:47
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    I think some of the confusion over this answer is that IIUC, you're labeling Japan (the victor) as a "non-Asian" power, and Tsarist Russia (the loser) as an "Asian" power, which is backwards from how the word "Asian" is colloquially used. Commented Nov 14, 2021 at 3:45
  • @Quuxplusone Good point, I overlooked the OP's third criterion -- I was just thinking about the non-land-war part. Commented Nov 15, 2021 at 22:58
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Oman

Did you know that the small(ish) country of Oman used to be a naval empire? It's true! Now, that was mostly in Africa - Mombasa, Zanzibar... but they did have impressive conquests in Southern Iran and Pakistan:

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As you can see on the map, the Omanis weren't very keen on fighting land wars, and relied on their naval power.

PS - The map describes the era of Said Bin Sultan, i.e. late 18th and early 19th century.

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There are a million examples. Here are some big ones:

  1. The Mongols Conquered everything from Korea to Poland, and held it for many years. This included all of China.
  2. Russia fought and won a series of wars for land in Asia. Russia has controlled this land for >150 years, and to this day continues to rule land from Vladivostok to the Baltic sea.
  3. The People's Republic of China was founded in 1948 after about ~40 years of war over land. It has retained control of this land for >70 years. Before that, the Qing dynasty controlled a huge territory for centuries.

However, I think that the quote is not referring to "land" in general in Asia, but instead is referring to futility of attacking Russia/China. There is an impression that Napoleon and Hitler had "the best" armies but could not win against Russia because there was too much land. Likewise, in this thought Japan had the superior army but lost in China because it was just too much land. Zhukov would have disagreed; the truth is that Soviet Army in WWII was excellent. Likewise, I seem to recall that Japan retained control of most China until the dropping of Atomic bombs.

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    All of your examples are land wars, which the question is not about.
    – DrSheldon
    Commented Nov 12, 2021 at 12:48
  • In all the examples the winner is also Asian. Commented Nov 14, 2021 at 1:22
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I guess that WWII from Japanese POV can fit your requirements:

  • somewhere in Asia (territorial waters are allowed): mainly fought on the pacific part of Asia, with last battles in territorial water of Japan
  • not primarily on land (perhaps a sea or air battle): main battles where fought at sea (Midway, Gulf of Leyte)
  • won by a country from outside Asia: mainly USA, UK and Australia

There have been land battle (China, south east Asia), but for the outcome of the war they where secondary theater.

On a side note, the first statement ("Never fight a land war in Asia") can be considered false if you take in account the so called "Soviet–Japanese border conflicts", in which the Soviet won against Japan in land battles specifically at the battle of Khalkhin Gol.

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  • The Soviet Union is one of those Asian countries that it is unwise to invade.
    – Mark
    Commented Dec 4, 2021 at 3:23

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